One for the epidemiologists on the forum.

[JohnD]

You did put it up.

And you didn't explain it.

 

[IT Minion]

Ah, so "Good availability of tests" has been replaced.

Are you now saying that vaccinations are one of the reasons why new cases are so high?

Sort of, we're behind some countries now in the lower age groups. It does factor into why we've allowed the case numbers to continue to soar.

 

[denso13]

put up where it is supposed to be soaring.

So if it isn't soaring do you think the Professor is just wrong, or perhaps lying?

 

[EFLImpudence]

No, they're one of the reasons they've been allowed to be so high.

Are you nearly admitting they (new cases) are irrelevant?

 

[EFLImpudence]

So if it isn't soaring do you think the Professor is just wrong, or perhaps lying?

Probably saying it for effect - like the currency sites when the pound rises half a cent - to emphasise his belief that more restrictions and vaccinating children should be done.

 

[IT Minion]

Are you nearly admitting they (new cases) are irrelevant?

No, that would be stupid.

 

[denso13]

Probably saying it for effect

Ironic given the title of this thread. A professor in the field has given his opinion but you think he is at it, for no good reason. Ridiculous.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Ok, but don't forget the article is from a news channel.

 

[denso13]

Bingo! I think I win again.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

According the the full post, ( the bit you ignored ) she had Covid.

I didn't ignore the full post.

If, back at the beginning of last year, our governments hadn't scared everybody out of their wits by declaring this illness a world emergency, people would have called it a cold, got over it and carried on. Colds are a fact of life, they change all the time, but are still commonly called "colds" whilst scientists give them detailed names.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Yes, compared to the bit to the left on the graph you haven't shown.

The left bit of the graph says "limited testing" so isn't comparable with the right of the graph. The right of the graph says "wider testing available" but doesn't show how many people were tested, so it is meaningless.

Also, we don't know how many results were false positives. Some would have it that most positive covid tests are falsely positive.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Bingo! I think I win again.

SCAMdemic, not SCANdemic, surely?

 

[bernardgreen]

If, back at the beginning of last year, our governments hadn't scared everybody out of their wits by declaring this illness a world emergency, people would have called it a cold, got over it and carried on.

with many being carried on to the graveyard.

Some people are convincing themselves that there is no pandemic. Hence they are also convinced there is no danger of them dying as a result of a pandemic.

A few of those self deluders go further and try to convince other people that there is no pandemic. The more people who believe that the pandemic is a myth the more convinced the self deluded can become.

Fear of dying from the pandemic is a strong motivation to deny that the pandemic is a real threat to that person, hence the self deluding.

 

[IT Minion]

Also, we don't know how many results were false positives. Some would have it that most positive covid tests are falsely positive.

Only utter idiots who can't count. There was concern the false positive rate could have been as high as 0.1%. It wasn't, for a PCR it is less/fewer than 1 in 20,000 tests run.

We know the specificity of our RT-PCR test must be very close to 100%, in particular, the data suggest that the false-positive rate is very low -- under 0.005%. For more information on the accuracy of PCR and Lateral Flow testing, please see this study and our recently published blog

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran...edcovid19deathspcrtestingandfalsepositiverate

All the data you'd need to check that is available. That people still repeat this idiocy is a sign they aren't being open-minded.

You don't believe that there's a lot of false positive PCR tests do you?

 

[denso13]

Some would have it that most positive covid tests are falsely positive.

Some would have it that Covid is one big hoax. Not sure why people like that would argue about the detail.