Brainwashing

[Odds]

Exactly my point.

Which 1 is correct, and why ?

You seem to think there's only one road to Damascus - doesn't the truth lie somewhere upon the road you choose to take?

 

[denso13]

Why?

Why do people make the wrong decisions? I have no idea.

 

[denso13]

and have to adapt to changes in culture, in politics and human perspective

The bible is the word of god, or it isn't. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Odds]

The bible is the word of god, or it isn't. You can't have it both ways.

Yes, you can.
This is my cake and all who partake are awake to the goodness therein.

 

[denso13]

This is my cake and all who partake are awake to the goodness therein.

So you can have your cake and eat it...

 

[Odds]

So you can have your cake and eat it...

Of course; the Bible is loaded with contradictions for many, paradoxes for a few, and inspiration for billions of people.
I'm not prepared to walk up to the families of those recently drowned lads and tell them there's no God. Your kids are dead and gone. Deal with it.
Are you?

 

[denso13]

Are you?

I'm not prepared to tell them their kids are now being tortured in everlasting hell because they didn't worship God.

But you've just explained why many believe, a comfort blanket.

Remember God killed millions, including children, in the great flood.

 

[denso13]

Abraham

Old testament Abraham?

I tend to omit the Old T. from Christianity

 

[Odds]

I'm not prepared to tell them their kids are now being tortured in everlasting hell because they didn't worship God.

But you've just explained why many believe, a comfort blanket.

Remember God killed millions, including children, in the great flood.

Now you speak of God as though you believe in Him-Her.

I haven't explained anything. Religion can be seen as a 'comfort blanket' and the modern Church has a very different view on Hell altogether. I think the concept of purgatory has been amended as well.

How do you arrive at the number of people drowned in the Great Flood?
There's good evidence to suggest the inundation occured during the Bronze Age when the narrow strip of land at the head of the Black Sea broke and swamped the region around Northern Turkey and Eastern Europe. If they find the Ark buried under all that black mud would you accept the premise of God?

 

[Odds]

Old testament Abraham?

Yes. The Jews trace their beginnings back to the time of Abraham and, by the same measure, do Christians as they evolved from Old T. Judaism.
I'm not discounting that, simply stating the origins. If you wish to deconstruct Christianity from Catholicism you have to start from the New T. Otherwise you'll be wandering through the desert dodging Evangelicals and Pentecostals in a never ending nightmare of snake charmers and locust eaters.

 

[Brigadier]

If they find the Ark buried under all that black mud would you accept the premise of God?

Why would evidence of a flood be evidence of God?

 

[Odds]

Why would evidence of a flood be evidence of God?

Because God sent the flood to punish mankind...and Denso wants his phone number to pick a bone or two about it.

 

[Notch7]

Andy 11, the spectator is part of this fine stable:

 

[denso13]

I think the concept of purgatory has been amended as well

Of course it has. A lot of the uncomfortable passages promoting slavery, genocide and rape, for example, have been dropped. So much for God's word...

How do you arrive at the number of people drowned in the Great Flood?

The whole earth was affected, "And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep". I'm guessing tens of millions, but you can correct me on that.

The flood "story" is very similar to old Babylonian accounts of a Great Flood, including the Epic of Gilgamesh. It predates the earliest Old Testament accounts by more than a thousand years. Funny how stories which predate the bible often appear.

 

[denso13]

I'm not discounting that, simply stating the origins. If you wish to deconstruct Christianity from Catholicism you have to start from the New T. Otherwise you'll be wandering through the desert dodging Evangelicals and Pentecostals in a never ending nightmare of snake charmers and locust eaters.

Kinda my point. An all knowing God couldn't have made it clearer and unambiguous? Really?