Israel under attack

[Roy Bloom]

when will you accept Hamas are terrorists

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Hamas are only designated as terrorists due to their armed sturggle against their oppressors, Israel
When will you accept that Israel's influence in US, UK etc is why they were designated as terrorists?

 

[Notch7]

Hamas are only designated as terrorists due to their armed sturggle against their opressors, Israel

WRONG

Hamas are designated as terrorists because they commit acts of terror on civilians

are you going to try and claim the attacks they committed last weekend were not designed to cause terror?

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

a freedom fighter is someone who fights for legal rights in conformity with the law of armed conflict; while a terrorist is someone who fights to achieve illegal advantages by means of targeting civilian objects.

everyday is a school day for you eh

 

[SirGalahad]

The Germans would have used similar tactics as Hamas.

What if we didn't bomb German city's because of certain death to women and children and what I'd DDay didn't happen because of certain death to women and children. Then Germany would have won the war or equally as bad maybe the Russians would have won the war.

Stern Gang

"Stern Gang" published on by null.

www.oxfordreference.com

British name for a Zionist terrorist group calling itself “Lohamei Herut Israel Lehi” (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel). It campaigned actively (1940–48) in British-administered Palestine for the creation of a Jewish state. Founded by Abraham Stern (1907–42), the Stern Gang numbered no more than a few hundred. They operated in small groups and concentrated on the assassination of government officials. Their victims included Lord Moyne, the British Minister for the Middle East (1944), and Count Bernadotte, the United Nations mediator in Palestine (1948).

Irgun Zvai Leumi | Meaning, Israel, Etzel, & Ideology

Irgun Zvai Leumi, (Hebrew: National Military Organization) Jewish right-wing underground movement in Palestine, founded in 1931. At first supported by many nonsocialist Zionist parties, in opposition to the Haganah, it became in 1936 an instrument of the Revisionist Party, an extreme nationalist

www.britannica.com

Irgun Zvai Leumi, (Hebrew: National Military Organization) byname Etzel, Jewish right-wing underground movement in Palestine, founded in 1931. At first supported by many nonsocialist Zionist parties, in opposition to the Haganah, it became in 1936 an instrument of the Revisionist Party, an extreme nationalist group that had seceded from the World Zionist Organization and whose policies called for the use of force, if necessary, to establish a Jewish state on both sides of the Jordan River.


Irgun committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab. Irgun participated in the organization of illegal immigration into Palestine after the publication of the British White Paper on Palestine (1939), which severely limited immigration.

 

[transam]

You get all weepy over animals, some folk get weepy over the slaughter of women and children (fellow human beings).

Ho hum.

Why you got some crocodile tears over the slaughter of woman and children than noseall ?

Blimey did you know some of em may be Tory’s or brexit supporters ??

Even trump may be popular in Israel ??

No sympathy from you for David amiss than

Yes exactly

 

[Notch7]

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Hamas are only designated as terrorists due to their armed sturggle against their opressors, Israel
When will you accept that Israel's influence in US, UK etc is why they were designated as terrorists?

what you are showing is tribal bias

Hamas are terrorists

Israel is a state who does things which clearly break international law -their retaliation on Gaza at the moment includes acts which are war crimes


Your starting position has to be acceptance of both of those statements, not the one you choose to suit your bias

 

[Roy Bloom]

WRONG

Hamas are designated as terrorists because they commit acts of terror on civilians

are you going to try and claim the attacks they committed last weekend were not designed to cause terror?

It's not wrong, it's just that you disagree. Because you have a different opinion, does not per se, make other's opinions wrong.
That's where you are getting lost.

Are you going to try and calim that what israel is doing now, killing women nd children and innocent civilians,, destroying their homes, schools, etc is not designed to be terror?

a freedom fighter is someone who fights for legal rights in conformity with the law of armed conflict; while a terrorist is someone who fights to achieve illegal advantages by means of targeting civilian objects.

If you accept that definition of a freedom fighter, you must also accept that what Israel is doing is collective punishemnt which is a war crime.
It is not simple "the right o defend itself".
Killing women, children, innocent civilians, destroying their homes and schools, etc cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be described as defence.

 

[transam]

what you are showing is tribal bias

Hamas are terrorists

Israel is a state who does things which clearly break international law -their retaliation on Gaza at the moment includes acts which are war crimes


Your starting position has to be acceptance of both of those statements, not the one you choose to suit your bias

For the life of me i
Do
Not see why you continue to engage with the fruit cake ????!!

He is and has always been a supporter of these types of groups tsliban , hamas ‘ mad mullers

Any country that insist on woman bowing there heads dazzler supports

Than bangs on about transgender rights etc

 

[fillyboy]

Good column by Boris, I didn't know he was a kibbutz volunteer, same neck of the woods as me.

Edit: forgot the link

BORIS JOHNSON: There IS one chance for peace in the Middle East...

When I saw the murder of those 260 revellers at the Nova music festival, I wept - as any father would - because those kids could have been yours or mine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[fillyboy]

Are you going to try and calim that what israel is doing now, killing women nd children and innocent civilians,, destroying their homes, schools, etc is not designed to be terror?

It's designed to be a counter strike after an invasion.

 

[noseall]

Any country that insist on woman bowing there heheads

Japan?

 

[noseall]

It's designed to be a counter strike after an invasion.

Certainly smells like one.
I'm sure the slaughter is just the same.

 

[gant]

As has been said Hamass language is their downfall, if they want to regarded as freedom fighters. Tone that down and then they may have a modicum of respect.

 

[Roy Bloom]

what you are showing is tribal bias

Hamas are terrorists

Israel is a state who does things which clearly break international law -their retaliation on Gaza at the moment includes acts which are war crimes


Your starting position has to be acceptance of both of those statements, not the one you choose to suit your bias

What you are doing is ignoring the history of the last few decades.
You conveniently forget that Israel has been oppressing Palestinians for decades, not for a weekend, not for a week, a month, or even a year, they've been doing it for decades. Killling Palestinians, turfing them out of their houses (with the assistance of the IDF).
Israeli have ignored UN resolutions to stop, but they continue.
You need to recognise the whole issue, not just the actions of the last week.

 

[SirGalahad]

Good column by Boris, I didn't know he was a kibbutz volunteer, same neck of the woods as me.

Edit: forgot the link

BORIS JOHNSON: There IS one chance for peace in the Middle East...

When I saw the murder of those 260 revellers at the Nova music festival, I wept - as any father would - because those kids could have been yours or mine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Letting that self promoting liar anywhere near this is gasoline on a fire.

Did he cry when Brits died under his watch as PM?

Don't believe this liar.

 

[fillyboy]

What an extraordinary coincidence. Ellal was a volunteer at Ayelet Hashahar, I was a volunteer at kibbutz Gadot and Boris johnson was a volunteer at Kfar Hanassi.

As I always say, 'it's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it'.