Labour's 1.5m homes

[Elsa TLC]

Apparently Labour have promised 1.5 million homes.

BBC News - UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

Builders and developers say reforms are needed to recruit more tradespeople to build the homes being promised.

www.bbc.com

We need

How do Labour intend on getting this many actual skilled workers.
We have currently 2.7 Million supposedly tradesmen.

How many of that 2.7 million are actually skilled.
I mean how many of that 2.7 million are good at their job?

 

[Deluks]

Not enough tradesmen? It would help if they didn't keep offing themselves.

Construction workers four times more likely to die by suicide as 7,000 lives lost, report says

Social media company On The Tools found that 73% of the UK's 2.1 million construction workers have been affected by mental illness. In the last decade 7,000 have taken their own lives.

news.sky.com

 

[Murdochcat]

Anybody would think we need a scheme for uk trained skills. Won’t help with this target BUT I do blame Blair for ignoring the 50% of youths who didn’t go to university

AND anybody young reading this, having a solid trade will mean potentially a career for life

 

[ajrtd]

I wonder where the materials will come from as its' still difficult to get bricks, blocks and roof tiles.

 

[Elsa TLC]

I wonder where the materials will come from as its' still difficult to get bricks, blocks and roof tiles.

I can see a business idea coming to fruit.

 

[blup]

The target will be hamstrung by skilled labour shortages, shortage of materials snd a lack of planning officers who will have a lot of big applications coming across their desks. Better trading arrangements with Europe will help on shortages plus visas and free movement on workers

 

[flameport]

How do Labour intend on getting this many actual skilled workers.

They won't be skilled.

They will be imported from other countries, and after the inevitable 10 tiers of subcontracting, those at the bottom actually doing the work will be the lowest paid unskilled types that can be found.
The buildings will be thrown together at the lowest possible price, oversight will consist of some private building inspector having a quick look a one property on an estate of 100s, and in a few years there will be a vast pile of problems which others will have to sort out at vast expense.

Of course by then the Labour government will be long gone and those responsible will have disappeared.

 

[Elsa TLC]

The target will be hamstrung by skilled labour shortages, shortage of materials snd a lack of planning officers who will have a lot of big applications coming across their desks. Better trading arrangements with Europe will help on shortages plus visas and free movement on workers

They won't be skilled.

They will be imported from other countries, and after the inevitable 10 tiers of subcontracting, those at the bottom actually doing the work will be the lowest paid unskilled types that can be found.
The buildings will be thrown together at the lowest possible price, oversight will consist of some private building inspector having a quick look a one property on an estate of 100s, and in a few years there will be a vast pile of problems which others will have to sort out at vast expense

This is the problem. People who no nothing about the industry and those who do are only in it to build their bank accounts.

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Of course by then the Labour government will be long gone and those responsible will have disappeared.

For these in control are just chucking numbers at the problem.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Better trading arrangements with Europe will help on shortages plus visas and free movement on workers

Free movement on highly skilled workers .....I think you meant to say.

 

[blup]

Free movement on highly skilled workers .....I think you meant to say.

What's the difference between a brickie and a fruit picker or care home worker if they meet a need. I imagine Kieth will do a deal that emphasises the need for skilled workers, which will be to the construction industries' benefit.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They won't be skilled.

They will be imported from other countries, and after the inevitable 10 tiers of subcontracting, those at the bottom actually doing the work will be the lowest paid unskilled types that can be found.
The buildings will be thrown together at the lowest possible price, oversight will consist of some private building inspector having a quick look a one property on an estate of 100s, and in a few years there will be a vast pile of problems which others will have to sort out at vast expense.

Of course by then the Labour government will be long gone and those responsible will have disappeared.

So all buildings built abroad are of poor quality because they don't have skilled workers ?

 

[Elsa TLC]

What's the difference between a brickie and a fruit picker or care home worker if they meet a need. I imagine Kieth will do a deal that emphasises the need for skilled workers, which will be to the construction industries' benefit.

That's the problem in nut shell. Comparing someone who builds what is the biggest investment most of us make, with a fruit picker.

 

[flameport]

So all buildings built abroad are of poor quality because they don't have skilled workers ?

Those imported here and paid minimum wage or less will be the unskilled. Unemployed labourers most likely, who will take any work going.

No skilled workers will come here because they will want proper wages, which they won't get from UK housebuilders.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Those imported here and paid minimum wage or less will be the unskilled. Unemployed labourers most likely, who will take any work going.

No skilled workers will come here because they will want proper wages, which they won't get from UK housebuilders.

Blame those responsible then.

The UK housebuilders, let's not blame others

 

[Elsa TLC]

Blame those responsible then.

The UK housebuilders, let's not blame others

The house builders are part of the blame for poor wages. Yet government havnt the first clue about the building industry and who to fill the gaps with.