Has Britain really still got this grit

[carmanmemoranda]

Our training is the best but takes a lot of flying hours after to get a pilot into a dog fight.

And again, how long has the war been going on?

 

[Highway Man]

No need for dog fights, you are overthinking it.

You don't think the Russians would attack any air combat missions?

 

[MNW67]

No need for dog fights, you are overthinking it.

How long does it take to train a pilot to do other roles, such as ground attack?

I have always thought that NATO would have needed to supply the air power element.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You don't think the Russians would attack any air combat missions?

Unlikely in a dogfight way

 

[Highway Man]

And again, how long has the war been going on?

You do not understand, you are missing the whole point.

 

[Highway Man]

Unlikely in a dogfight way

Ok you know best. No such thing as air dog fights with air forces.

 

[denso13]

You don't think the Russians would attack any air combat missions?

What combat missions? Just give them the kit to defend themselves.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You do not understand, you are missing the whole point.

And you are not ?

Training is part of the defence systems that Ukraine needs to defend ITSELF from the aggressor Russia

 

[Highway Man]

What combat missions? Just give them the kit to defend themselves.

Tell me the kit you are talking about?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Ok you know best. No such thing as air dog fights with air forces.

Ever heard of missiles ?

 

[Highway Man]

Ever heard of missiles ?

No new to me that, do they need planes to fire them?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Tell me the kit you are talking about?

Why are you so keen for Ukraine to just give in to Russia ?

They are a sovereign country, but not in NATO, so we can only supply to help them defend themselves

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No new to me that, do they need planes to fire them?

No

I thought you'd know that from your military experience

 

[MNW67]

You don't think the Russians would attack any air combat missions?

My limited understanding is that we would also have needed to provide the best air defences, in order to push the enemy planes back. But overall it is something I couldn't get my head round. How do you wipe out the Russian air defences sufficiently to stop your own planes from getting shot down.

 

[Highway Man]

Why are you so keen for Ukraine to just give in to Russia ?

They are a sovereign country, but not in NATO, so we can only supply to help them defend themselves

Why are you twisting what I am saying? Is it a personal dig or are you being serious?