Budget

[Ivor Windybottom]

You still on your Boris/Tory obsession?!?

I don't think you get it - calling someone a tory really isn't an insult to the vast majority of the population. Perhaps it is at your palestine LGBTQZYX+ communist marches, but outside your world it's just a party that the vast majority of the voting population have voted for at some point in their lives.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Why obsess about Boris anyway? THE most unpopular PM ever in history according to independent polling is Kier Starmer and his bunch of clowns.

...and getting more hated by the week, the next lot of polls should be even worse for them, given the last week's panto performance.

 

[Koolpc]

Labour have really made themselves the enemy of the people with the farcical budget that they delivered. Anyone can see that....you cant defend that. You cant defend Labour...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What's a "Reform-ist"?

Are you referring to approximately one third of the population and rising?

i.e. fairly normal?

So a reform supporter is normal becuase of opinion polls, and not supporting reform makes a person a lefty?

Are you beginning to understand how you, and others, are not central, but have shifted to the right? But just not admitting it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Labour have really made themselves the enemy of the people with the farcical budget that they delivered. Anyone can see that....you cant defend that. You cant defend Labour...

After having been voted in, did you expect much of a different budget?

It wasn't good, budgets never are. But it's time to start reigning in and changing course, building back up the infrastructure we all want, but that no one wants to pay for.

I would have preferred not to have had the austerity package that has cost us so much more over time, just to replace what was culled. Would have been much cheaper not to cut so much, but people wanted tax cuts and only now are they realising at what price.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

So a reform supporter is normal becuase of opinion polls, and not supporting reform makes a person a lefty?

Are you beginning to understand how you, and others, are not central, but have shifted to the right? But just not admitting it.

You seriously think that a third of the british population are far right?

I'd bet that far more turn out on election day, people are usually shy about right-leaning parties in opinion polls as it's not as private as voting. Sadly many are intimidated by the noisy but tiny lefty mob who dominate political discussion.

The way things are going, a general election tomorrow could probably end up with approaching 50% reform support.

It's fun watching the left's impossible dreams crumble to dust when they actually get into power, when people find out that it was all lies.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

It wasn't good, budgets never are. But it's time to start reigning in and changing course, building back up the infrastructure we all want, but that no one wants to pay for.

"Reigning in" is precisely what it wasn't.

People are skint, the cost of living is rising. So they lied to justify tax rises so they can give money away to people with large numbers of kids (we all know the demographic) and illegal immigrants. The government's own future projections show no decrease in spending on illegal immigrants, they've accidentally admitted they're not going to smash any gangs or stop anyone.

Don't you understand? The WORKING class are being bled dry by the party that once represented them, so they can buy votes from people who contribute nothing with our money. People hate what they're doing.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You seriously think that a third of the british population are far right?

A lot are going to the right, yes. Look at this forum as an example.

I'd bet that far more turn out on election day, people are usually shy about right-leaning parties in opinion polls as it's not as private as voting. Sadly many are intimidated by the noisy but tiny lefty mob who dominate political discussion.

It's the right that are making all the noise. Anti labour. You have noticed it? You are part of it.

The way things are going, a general election tomorrow could probably end up with approaching 50% reform support.

If it was tomorrow, the result may well be close to that, give or take either way. But at the next GE, I think reform will have peaked and lose support. Only time will tell. This government is doing exactly what any other opposition governmment has done when it gets into power. changing the direction and the priorities. I happen to support infrastructure and services. I hate paying tax, but it's a fact of life. Cheaper to pay than to slasjh and then respend more to get back to the same place.

It's fun watching the left's impossible dreams crumble to dust when they actually get into power, when people find out that it was all lies.

just like the Tories. It just took some a while to see it. And not everything they did was bad, but fptp politics does this swing thing, every time, every change of party.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

"Reigning in" is precisely what it wasn't.

People are skint, the cost of living is rising

Suddenly ?

. So they lied to justify tax rises so they can give money away to people with large numbers of kids (we all know the demographic) and illegal immigrants.

Pure bias

The government's own future projections show no decrease in spending on illegal immigrants, they've accidentally admitted they're not going to smash any gangs or stop anyone.

I don't think that's very accurate at all. But there are objections of topping the use of hotels and houses, against the use of old service bases etc. It's like those that are objecting would prefer to keep the use of hotels and houses.

Don't you understand? The WORKING class are being bled dry by the party that once represented them, so they can buy votes from people who contribute nothing with our money. People hate what they're doing.

Was it better under the previous lot, or did the money divide get worse under them? It's a simple yes or no to that by the way.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I reckon Starmer is about to decide to go PR before the next general election, to give them a hope of retaining some MPs in the thrashing they're certain to get. They'll become the party of "diverse" cities and nothing else.

They can't get the public back on their side now, they're far too awful for that.

They just keep getting worse, it's almost like they want to be hated. Abolishing jury trials now, they get more awful every week.

 

[noseall]

You seriously think that a third of the british population are far right?

Are you referring to approximately one third of the population and rising?

Lol.

Your maths is about as convincing as your politics.

 

[Koolpc]

After having been voted in, did you expect much of a different budget?

It wasn't good, budgets never are. But it's time to start reigning in and changing course, building back up the infrastructure we all want, but that no one wants to pay for.

I would have preferred not to have had the austerity package that has cost us so much more over time, just to replace what was culled. Would have been much cheaper not to cut so much, but people wanted tax cuts and only now are they realising at what price.

Yes, the whole country didnt expect s budget as dire as that!!

 

[Koolpc]

"Reigning in" is precisely what it wasn't.

People are skint, the cost of living is rising. So they lied to justify tax rises so they can give money away to people with large numbers of kids (we all know the demographic) and illegal immigrants. The government's own future projections show no decrease in spending on illegal immigrants, they've accidentally admitted they're not going to smash any gangs or stop anyone.

Don't you understand? The WORKING class are being bled dry by the party that once represented them, so they can buy votes from people who contribute nothing with our money. People hate what they're doing.

Exactly

 

[noseall]

They just keep getting worse, it's almost like they want to be hated.

Populism is for old gullible dunces. Just like Brexit and Fromage. Sir Keir is a principled man and won't lube up just to appease some gammon flag shaggers.

 

[noseall]

Yes, the whole country

Lol. Your maths is worse than windbags and that's saying summat.