logical step for Labour is to reverse Brexit

[carmanmemoranda]

People forget we had a lot of power in making those rules, and opting out of many.

But gave it all away

 

[aveatry]

oh look

here is Aveatry making assertions without a single piece of evidence

whataboutery - I believe it goes
Anyway I am too busy today to deal with your nonsense, I dont expect you will have posted anything to back up your Reform claims when I return.

 

[Notch7]

whataboutery - I believe it goes

it is not whataboutery, I am simply pointing out how you have done exactly what you are accusing me of doing

Anyway I am too busy today to deal with your nonsense

Its funny how you are always suddenly busy when youve been caught out

I dont expect you will have posted anything to back up your Reform claims when I return.

you are very concerned about negative claims regarding Reform............obv you are a massive fan (which we know anyway, youve never posted any criticism of them ever whatsoever

 

[Mottie]

I can provide it

since you are a massive Reform fanboi you should be across all their policies...............but all you know is they hate immigrants, so thats enough for you

So. You can’t provide it then. You only had to say.

 

[JohnD]

Requiring a substantial majority for change otherwise we stay, would not have been democratic.

most countries have a written constitution.

countries where referenda are normal, generally specify a minimum band to avoid the absurdity of a 49/51 vote upending the country, followed by a 51/49 to upend it again.

you may remember that when Farage thought the Brexers would lose by a small margin, he promised to press for more referenda until he got his way.

some might think that you are attracted to the small brexit margin because you thought it resulted in you getting what you thought you wanted.

no doubt you would be equally committed to a small margin that went the other way.

ooops, no you wouldn't.

 

[motorbiking]

no doubt you would be equally committed to a small margin that went the other way.

ooops, no you wouldn't.

Just when I thought you were capably of sensible discussion...

I was very much on the fence, but there was no "I don't mind" option. I was slightly more leave leaning and I thought Remain would win.

I would have been happy for BRINO, Norway-Plus or any of the soft Brexits. EU only makes sense if you are in the Euro otherwise you are paying the same ticket for a worse seat. I have benefitted substantially from Brexit, but it was not my reason for voting leave.

 

[JohnD]

I was very much on the fence,

if that had been true, you would not have poured out a torrent of anti-EU posts

unless, perhaps, they had been balanced by an equal volume of pro-EU posts

which they weren't

It is not unusual for brexers, in the light of reality, to back away from their previous positions.

that's one of the reasons there are so few brexers left now.

 

[JohnD]

But look at all the benefits every Brexiteer is proud to tell you about

a little lion on the beer glass


which we now know we could have any time we wanted.

 

[morqthana]

A much more difficult problem would be to persuade the 27 nations that UK is not a barmy timewaster. Expect a very long process and a very long probation.

Potential re-accession of the United Kingdom to the European Union - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[morqthana]

And you evidence for this is where?

Entirely in his head.

Like virtually everything he believes about the entire world.

 

[morqthana]

In a roughly 50/50 split with a slight majority.

Not overwhelming

I don't think that's the point Deluks was making.

I read it as asking Notch what the significance of the story being in The Times was, as opposed to the Express, or the Guardian, or the Racing Post, given that leavers and remainers were found on both sides of any political divide.

 

[morqthana]

Surviving Brexiters will have been replaced by new younger ones. It's just how it goes.

And you will keep pretending that you can change reality by the power of your own imagination. It's just how it goes.

 

[morqthana]

That spike in immigration is the result of deliberate government policy, not Brexit.

You'd better get over it, then.

 

[morqthana]

I see you are really afraid of a new referendum

Of course he is.

 

[morqthana]

Brexit is in the past. It cant be changed....

Even by your standards that's a ludicrously fatuous statement.