What fire rated downlights are you all fitting?

[flameport]

Its all in part L isn’t it.

No.

A replaceable bulb fitting that can be replaced with a Tungsten bulb will get a lower EPC than a fixed LED un replaceable bulb.

So the millions of properties that have pendant lighting will get a low rated EPC. As will those that have any other types of light fitting with G9, G4, GU10 and all the other styles of replaceable lamps, and all because someone might go and buy some inefficient incandescent lamps that are obsolete and have been off the market for years.

 

[aveatry]

No.
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So the millions of properties that have pendant lighting will get a low rated EPC. As will those that have any other types of light fitting with G9, G4, GU10 and all the other styles of replaceable lamps, and all because someone might go and buy some inefficient incandescent lamps that are obsolete and have been off the market for years.

Yes that right
And is another indication of how stupid the EPC is

 

[securespark]

Have to be honest they look awful mate!
Cheers

Well thank you!

Different things to different people...

Have these got CPC loop on/out?

 

[securespark]

I can see two camels on your wall

I'm regretting that blinking paper already. Bill Morris, I thought would be good. I saw a sample in the shop, but when it's hung, you can see the repeated pattern and it does my eyes in something rotten.

 

[bilabonic]

That's a massive job filling the holes and IMO you will always be able to see where they were - are you good at plastering / filling - or have to pay someone to do it.
Replacing with new GU10s would be much cheaper. Replaceable bulbs.
But the issue with replaceable bulbs is that it will affect your EPC and will lower your score due to Part L

EPC is rated C.
It's all down the accessor if you know a decent one who isn't silly....

I've known LLs take the course themselves it's that basic mate.

 

[bilabonic]

That's a massive job filling the holes and IMO you will always be able to see where they were - are you good at plastering / filling - or have to pay someone to do it.
Replacing with new GU10s would be much cheaper. Replaceable bulbs.
But the issue with replaceable bulbs is that it will affect your EPC and will lower your score due to Part L

How is filling existing holes a massive job?
Cut some 76mm board match existing, batten, but scrim over it.
Wide filling blade/knife and tub ready mixed Gyproc lite or similar.

 

[bilabonic]

No.
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So the millions of properties that have pendant lighting will get a low rated EPC. As will those that have any other types of light fitting with G9, G4, GU10 and all the other styles of replaceable lamps, and all because someone might go and buy some inefficient incandescent lamps that are obsolete and have been off the market for years.

The days of 35/50w halogens are over.
I must have box's of them here.
Plus some 'fluorescent' types before the switch to LED.

Looking at the new integrated LEDs they look a nightmare with the switchable wattage and colour.

Cheers

 

[aveatry]

How is filling existing holes a massive job?
Cut some 76mm board match existing, batten, but scrim over it.
Wide filling blade/knife and tub ready mixed Gyproc lite or similar.

Have you ever done it in a virgin perfect ceiling. You will always be able to see where it was.