Diy house rewire

[Harry Bloomfield]

The developers/builders probably did 'think' - about the cost of addressing those issues.

I seen recommendations, for minimum standards, for new builds. Home builders, do tend to do an absolute minimum, then they can charge more for extras. The OP has the opportunity, to design his installation, so it includes all the extras he could possibly need, at little extra cost to him. Just the cost of the materials needed.

 

[Murdochcat]

I seen recommendations, for minimum standards, for new builds. Home builders, do tend to do an absolute minimum, then they can charge more for extras. The OP has the opportunity, to design his installation, so it includes all the extras he could possibly need, at little extra cost to him. Just the cost of the materials needed.

Hit, nail and head springs to mind.

When I’m agreeing with customers the written spec for a rewire, I point out what things will be difficult, if not impossible later. Then leave them to think about it

 

[JohnW2]

I seen recommendations, for minimum standards, for new builds. Home builders, do tend to do an absolute minimum, then they can charge more for extras. The OP has the opportunity, to design his installation, so it includes all the extras he could possibly need, at little extra cost to him. Just the cost of the materials needed.

Agreed.

 

[JohnW2]

Who mentioned inspections, not me?

The questions posed by the OP in post #1 essentially related to matter of inspections, certification and notification.

My point was that (sensible though they are) the non-safety-related (but BS7671-compliant) aspects of 'poor design' should not really have any impact on inspections, certifications or notification, should they?

 

[morqthana]

One could argue that insufficient sockets could encourage the use of "permanent" extension leads.

 

[JohnW2]

One could argue that insufficient sockets could encourage the use of "permanent" extension leads.

One could but, in electrical terms, that is probably not a significant safety issue (provided, of course, the 'extension leads' are satisfactory) - so I don't think it would be reasonable to produce a 'fail' EICR because of it, would you?

 

[markus2025]

Given the input from the OP maybe he needs to reach out to local sparks to see if he can locate 1 who will work with him to keep costs down

Doing a rewire with multiple threads being started certainly isn’t going to endear him to anyone

haha dont go down the line of the forum standard murdo (get a professional in)
these forums are there for advice so why should multiple posts asking for help and advice matter but to cover your point ive spoken to some local sparks who are not so keen unless they are doing the full job them self and involving sparks to work with kind of goes against the whole point of doing it DIY

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

some local sparks who are not so keen unless they are doing the full job them self and involving sparks to work with kind of goes against the whole point of doing it DIY

Well, you could do with one, to at least keep an eye on your progress, and review the quality of your work. As I said, it's not a particularly technical, but the expertise used in the execution, is everything. So far, you have only mentioned how technically simple it is. If the end result is an unsafe mess, due to lack of expertise...

 

[markus2025]

i suppose thats the issue talking on these forums no one knows each other from adam so we dont now what anyones DIY capabilities are , you can have a have a go saturday morning steven who has literally no basic clue what a rcbo even is and someone who has a fair bit of basic knowledge but like to just get the backing from fellow DIY folk on or even trades on here who can give even more knowledge ,
in my case i dont see how i personally would end up with a unsafe mess as im well beyond putting the live in the neutral port so i dont know weather its really that simple or i understand it more simply and maybe the average person would think i was stevon hawking's when i start talking rcbo ratings to cables... ‍idk.. but the original post here was to cover how do you basically get a cert when your not a trade and cant self cert , obv with the xmas period im still waiting from a reply from the local building control

 

[markus2025]

The route im hopeing its going to go is

i contact building control and tell/show them my plans they agree to come and inspect the house and see the plans 300/400 quid

they then tell me to proceed
i go ahead and first fix the full house at this point they come and inspect again

i then second fix the house and again they come and inspect and also send a electrician to do tests

then they sign it off and give me a cert

apart from the first inspection charge i wont know till i get a reply from them what the further charges will be but as ive already said im sure it be no way near the 4/5 grand a spark would charge to rewire

 

[JohnW2]

i suppose thats the issue talking on these forums no one knows each other from adam so we dont now what anyones DIY capabilities are ...

Yes, that can be a definite problem - but, as you go on to imply, and I think is probably true in the case of you, one can often get a reasonable feel for a person's knowledge and capabilities/competence from the questions they ask and, for example, the vocabulary and terminology they use.

 

[endecotp]

in my case i dont see how i personally would end up with a unsafe mess

That’s called overconfidence.

 

[morqthana]

That’s called overconfidence.

 

[morqthana]

obv with the xmas period im still waiting from a reply from the local building control

I wonder what it will be, because...

i contact building control and tell/show them my plans they agree to come and inspect the house and see the plans 300/400 quid

They have nobody with the expertise to do that.

they then tell me to proceed
i go ahead and first fix the full house at this point they come and inspect again

They have nobody with the expertise to do that.

i then second fix the house and again they come and inspect and also send a electrician to do tests

That electrician cannot certify the design, nor the act of installing.

then they sign it off and give me a cert

Hard to see how.


Still - let us know what they say.

 

[markus2025]

Thats fair enough maybe i dont know every single correct term in the electricians lingo
for example maybe a electrician wouldnt say that he would do his lights in a daisy chain method i dont know... but regardless of the terminology the basic fact leads to the same the brown live goes in the L the blue neutral goes in the N and the bare copper Earth
( or not bare if your using earth sure cable)
thats been sheathed,sleeved,had green and yellow tubing stuffed on it goes in the E in regards to a ring main , ring final , loop of 2.5mm twin and earth or twin and skin or twin and CPC at the end of the day this is a DIY forum ,there can be plenty of fancy terminology used but it all leads to the same thing if someone says


so do i strip that matt grey stuff down that has 3 strands in it then strip back the colored stuff ?


to if they say


so do i remove the grey outer sheefing then strip back the inner colored cores


its a yes to both


im not claiming to be overconfident i just think it quite a wrong prediction that there is a chance that im gonna end up with
a "" dangerous mess""" everyone's human so susceptible to human error even a fully qualified spark...


but yeah will have to just see what they say..


what is the point in having the DIY building control route if its not obtainable ?


if its all...

they dont have this they cant do that etc.. why not just have it black and white as unless your a fully qualified spark with all the tickets then No you cant rewire a house in the Uk.