Should there be a general election when Starmer gets booted?

[Ivor Windybottom]

Those on the side of sense don't need to argue about it, as we won.

Move forward, not back to what you think were good old days.

We've failed to take much advantage of the situation, but that's probably deliberate.

Starmer is probably going to try and rejoin anyway, democracy doesn't count to him.

 

[noseall]

Is there a remoaner thread somewhere that can be used for this tedious tired moaning?

The incessant and hypocritical, Farage-small boats garbage, you mean?

 

[noseall]

Move forward

Is that the bit where you lot stop whingeing about the post-Brexit, Farage small boats?

 

[warey4life]

Those on the side of sense don't need to argue about it, as we won.

Move forward, not back to what you think were good old days.

We've failed to take much advantage of the situation, but that's probably deliberate.

Starmer is probably going to try and rejoin anyway, democracy doesn't count to him.

Democracy doesn't count to Brexitters. Brexit has severely damaged the country and now many more people consider it to be a failure than those simple people who still for some reason believe it was a success. If we lived in a democracy we'd be able to choose to reverse the damage.

 

[aveatry]

Democracy does count to Brexitters. Brexit has severely damaged the country and now many more people consider it to be a failure than those simple people who still for some reason believe it was a success. If we lived in a democracy we'd be able to choose to reverse the damage.

Is this one of your made up hundreds of billions rubbish

 

[warey4life]

Is this one of your made up hundreds of billions rubbish

Its common knowledge that Brexit has cost the economy many many many many billions (I didn't say hundreds of billions because I know you'd get upset).
It's also common knowledge that public opinion regarding Brexit has been consistently of the opinion that Brexit was a mistake (I suspect you'll say I'm lying about that though).

So far, do you think that Brexit has been more of a success or more of a failure?

www.whatukthinks.org

Post-Brexit Poll of Polls

www.whatukthinks.org

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Copy_of_Internal_EUoptions_260123.pdf

 

[JP_]

Being discussed on TV now.

Only 7 out of 400 labour MPs support removing Starmer.

All this fuss is over anonymous sources claiming the party is in turmoil.

Media once again fools the people.

 

[warey4life]

Being discussed on TV now.

Only 7 out of 400 labour MPs support removing Starmer.

All this fuss is over anonymous sources claiming the party is in turmoil.

Media once again fools the people.

Despite the u-turns, the stupid increase in employers NI contributions and the odd gaff, it could be worse. I'd prefer the LibDems though.

 

[catlad]

Dream on boyo. Labour and Sir Keir are here to stay. Dig in.

Mandelson.... Gone
Sweeney ..... Gone
Simmons ...... Gone

Still think your on solid ground ?

 

[noseall]

Mandelson.... Gone
Sweeney ..... Gone
Simmons ...... Gone

Labour - 3 years and counting.

Still think your on solid ground ?

Me?
See above.

 

[catlad]

So three of his main troops being booted out in the last couple of weeks, doesn't ring any alarm bells with you?

 

[Diver Fred]

Democracy doesn't count to Brexitters. Brexit has severely damaged the country and now many more people consider it to be a failure than those simple people who still for some reason believe it was a success. If we lived in a democracy we'd be able to choose to reverse the damage.

Even if KS managed to negotiate the UK's re-admittance to the EU I believe it wouldn't be on the favourable terms we had.
Re-admittance means we would loose the Pound Sterling amongst many other things. Would we get any of the EU bodies back, unlikely. Would we get the EU's Financial Centre back, Can't see it.

I'm was of the opinion that it was a stupid move to hold a simple referendum - the government of the time should have required a clear majority - at least 10% and probably, better, 20%.

Of course if Blair hadn't so desperate to get the 'Premiership' of the EU; by gaining favour with allowing unfettered incoming migration* from the 'New 8' countries the noise of the Anti EU supporters wouldn't have been so loud.
*the great majority of the older EU countries applied restrictions on incoming migration so of course the UK became the prime target.

 

[noseall]

So three of his main troops being booted out in the last couple of weeks, doesn't ring any alarm bells with you?

I could not care less. I'll weather the weather.

Politically speaking, Starmer is in a perilous position, no doubt about it. Oddly, the knives seem to be in the scabbards for now. No Idea what will happen after the locals, nor am I anxious about it.

I'm just glad there are no greedy populist liars in power presently. I'll enjoy the spring whilst it lasts. Good enough?

 

[King Billy]

Politically speaking, Starmer is in a perilous position, no doubt about it. Oddly, the knives seem to be in the scabbards for now. No Idea what will happen after the locals, nor am I anxious about it.

His decision to join in with the attack on Iran might have weakened his position further, except that his main rivals (the Tories) will agree with that decision.

 

[Odds]

His decision to join in with the attack on Iran might have weakened his position further, except that his main rivals (the Tories) will gree with that decision.

He hasn't 'joined in the attack', only provided bases and support for American aircraft in the region. Starmer's very cautious about a repeat of Iraq and will not commit British forces any further...even if it ends up annoying Trump.*

*Especially if it annoys Trump, in my book.