Has anyone any sympathy?

[aveatry]

The problem is that if certain death would result from your crime then there are some that would actually be encouraged to commit the crime knowing they would get the death sentence.

 

[morqthana]

Never seen more than a few minutes.

Read the book. Always better.

 

[morqthana]

Judges have a level of discretion!

If the judges in the trials of the Guildford Four and the Birmingam Six had been able, they would have hanged 10 innocent people.

 

[King Billy]

I'm not a supporter for Capital Punishment, but ironically if there had been capital punishment, and if the Manchester News is correct, the killer of Huntley would have been executed for his crimes, and so would Huntley. So they'd both be dead.

Child murderer Huntley died today, seven days after he was brutally attacked in HMP Frankland. Although his killer has not been officially named, it is widely reported to be Russell.
But Russell is already in jail for a string of sickening crimes, including a 'brutal' seven-day killing spree - and is now set to face an even longer sentence.

Manchester Evening News

Manchester Evening News. 2,572,209 likes · 573,917 talking about this. Welcome to the Manchester Evening News on Facebook

www.facebook.com

 

[King Billy]

Whilst she is also a hate figure, I do have a little sympathy for Maxine Carr, it's entirely possible that he gaslighted her into thinking he didn't do it. Manipulative people can make you think up is down and down is up. She was clearly under his spell.
I know someone who's son is inside for murder, but in their eyes "he didn't do it, he was framed by someone else" it's hard to believe that your loved one could be a monster.

Her crime was giving a fake alibi for Huntley. She was cleared of any involvement with huntley's crime.
But a little doubt remains as to her innocence:

However, it was during that same interview that Carr made a chilling mistake declaring, ‘That was the kind of girl she was, she was just really lovely.’ Referring to Holly in the past tense immediately raised suspicions because at the time the girls were still just ‘missing’.

What happened to Maxine Carr?

Maxine Carr was dubbed 'Myra Hindley mark two' for providing a false alibi for her boyfriend Ian Huntley. She was granted lifelong anonymity in 2005 after her release from prison

www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk

 

[King Billy]

The problem is that if certain death would result from your crime then there are some that would actually be encouraged to commit the crime knowing they would get the death sentence.

That is one of the most bizarre arguments against Capital Punishment I've ever heard.

 

[SPLINE]

If executing people was vital to our civilisation then maybe.

In the distant past, when people were hanged for crimes such as stealing a loaf of bread, it is said that one in ten of the population of England were executed, and that this continually removed bad people from the 'gene pool'. This could have been the reason why we eventually became the top nation and led the world in every field.

But since it isn't

The country has gone to hell since hanging was abolished, so maybe it is.

 

[IT Minion]

In the distant past, when people were hanged for crimes such as stealing a loaf of bread, it is said that one in ten of the population of England were executed, and that this continually removed bad people from the 'gene pool'. This could have been the reason why we eventually became the top nation and led the world in every field.


The country has gone to hell since hanging was abolished, so maybe it is.

We never led the world in every field, nor did we execute one on 10. You have no idea what you're talking about in the slightest.

 

[SPLINE]

, nor did we execute one on 10.

How can you state this with such certainty? Were you there at the time?

 

[IT Minion]

How can you state this with such certainty? Were you there at the time?

Are you seriously asking me to disprove your bullshit statement? If so at least give me an idea when you think this might have happened.

 

[King Billy]

Are you seriously asking me to disprove your bullshit statement? If so at least give me an idea when you think this might have happened.

Pigeons and wrestling with pigs.

 

[SPLINE]

Are you seriously asking me to disprove your bullshit statement?

No; I am asking how you (and your fellow loonies) can be so certain of things? There's never an element of doubt, question, or 'I'm 99% sure'.

When any of you do get something wrong, you delete the post toot sweets and pretend it never happened!

 

[IT Minion]

No; I am asking how you (and your fellow loonies) can be so certain of things? There's never an element of doubt, question, or 'I'm 99% sure'.

When any of you do get something wrong, you delete the post toot sweets and pretend it never happened!

No I don't. I leave my few mistakes visible.

I am so certain because having execution as the most common cause of death is the sort of thing that would typically be mentioned in history books. It's clearly bullshit as soon as you even think about it.

I even wasted time looking it up, you're completely wrong. Even in the 1700s with the 'bloody code' there were only around 10,000 executions over 60 years in a country of 10 million. So less than 1 in 1000.

You're wrong quite literally 100 times.

 

[motorbiking]

Even Hitler had a girlfriend.

and a massive drug habit.

 

[motorbiking]

No I don't. I leave my few mistakes visible.

I am so certain because having execution as the most common cause of death is the sort of thing that would typically be mentioned in history books. It's clearly bullshit as soon as you even think about it.

I even wasted time looking it up, you're completely wrong. Even in the 1700s with the 'bloody code' there were only around 10,000 executions over 60 years in a country of 10 million. So less than 1 in 1000.

You're wrong quite literally 100 times.

do you think some might have been undocumented?