Capital Punishment

Jeez us parents can’t even take there infants to nursery school now with out the worry that there 2 and 3 year olds are not going to be sexually abused / raped WTF

That bennet bloke may not have killed any one but I would have him bumped off any way

30 years of expense keeping this worthless piece of rubbish in prison
 
It is required both by Magna Carta and by any thinking person.

And they should have the same rights of appeal as everyone else.

Because otherwise, who decides which cases get trials and appeals.
Actually, the Magna Carta doesn't go that far

“No Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or disseised of his Free-hold, or Liberties, or free Customes, or be out-lawed, or exiled, or any otherwise destroyed: nor we will not passe upon him, nor condemne him, but by lawfull judgement of his PEERES, or by the law of the land.”.

All that is needed is an Absolute Bang To Rights Murderer Act 2026, stipulating the criteria and who may authorise the penalty.

might need to repeal a few other laws.. I think you can guess which ones.
 
"by the law of the land.”. exactly what this would be for those who are 100% guilty, automatic death sentence, saves on costs and makes so much sense,
 
Actually, the Magna Carta doesn't go that far

“No Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or disseised of his Free-hold, or Liberties, or free Customes, or be out-lawed, or exiled, or any otherwise destroyed: nor we will not passe upon him, nor condemne him, but by lawfull judgement of his PEERES, or by the law of the land.”.

All that is needed is an Absolute Bang To Rights Murderer Act 2026, stipulating the criteria and who may authorise the penalty.

might need to repeal a few other laws.. I think you can guess which ones.

I have avoided any reference to human rights and have been looking purely on the basis of foundational British law. But this is very complex stuff. So, I have done another AI just to flag up possible further areas of discussion. I would be interested if you could ask the same question of Anthropic:

The question I asked was:

'would a system where a tribunal decides that a particular accused won't receive a trial if they are certain of his guilt be a denial of justice under magna carta'

This is what it came back with:

Why skipping a trial violates Magna Carta
  • Mandatory Due Process: The phrase "lawful judgment" requires a formal legal process to determine guilt. A tribunal deciding guilt before a trial effectively skips the very process the Charter was written to guarantee.
  • Protection Against Arbitrariness: Magna Carta was specifically designed to prevent the King (or any state authority) from acting on personal "certainty" or arbitrary whims. The requirement for a trial ensures that guilt is proven through established law, not just declared.
  • Right to Justice: Clause 40 famously states, "To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice". Abolishing a trial based on a pre-determined outcome is a functional denial of the "right to justice".
  • Presumption of Innocence: Modern interpretations of these clauses underpin the principle that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law—a standard that cannot be met if the trial itself is cancelled.
While Parliamentary sovereignty allows the UK government to create new laws, any system that removes the requirement for a trial would be widely condemned as a violation of the constitutional spirit and foundational protections of Magna Carta.
 
I have avoided any reference to human rights and have been looking purely on the basis of foundational British law. But this is very complex stuff. So, I have done another AI just to flag up possible further areas of discussion. I would be interested if you could ask the same question of Anthropic:

The question I asked was:

'would a system where a tribunal decides that a particular accused won't receive a trial if they are certain of his guilt be a denial of justice under magna carta'

This is what it came back with:

Why skipping a trial violates Magna Carta
  • Mandatory Due Process: The phrase "lawful judgment" requires a formal legal process to determine guilt. A tribunal deciding guilt before a trial effectively skips the very process the Charter was written to guarantee.
  • Protection Against Arbitrariness: Magna Carta was specifically designed to prevent the King (or any state authority) from acting on personal "certainty" or arbitrary whims. The requirement for a trial ensures that guilt is proven through established law, not just declared.
  • Right to Justice: Clause 40 famously states, "To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice". Abolishing a trial based on a pre-determined outcome is a functional denial of the "right to justice".
  • Presumption of Innocence: Modern interpretations of these clauses underpin the principle that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law—a standard that cannot be met if the trial itself is cancelled.
While Parliamentary sovereignty allows the UK government to create new laws, any system that removes the requirement for a trial would be widely condemned as a violation of the constitutional spirit and foundational protections of Magna Carta.
What did the magna carta say abourt child killers out of interest?
 
Do you mean the right to be anonymous. I can't remember the current legal status. But it has been controversial at times.
Women were not allowed to accuse anyone of a crime it had to be their husband or a man.
 
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