lighting adapter to 3 pin plug

Well Taylor lad - the Consumer units that were popular when I was a lad most had the humble rewireable fuses in them. 5,15 and 30 amps being common, mostly Wylex around her , the "New Fangled" MCBs came later and the Wylex ones were push buttons and the lever switches came later.

Fuse box and fuseway were common terms even with MCBs in them , just in the same way that a vacuum cleaner was a "hoover" (whatever make it actually was) and just like my Grandma called street lamps "gas lamps" as they all were for a lot of her early life then the electric lamps were not called electric lamps by her but Electric Gaslamps, also "Electric Gasovens"! LOL. Quite amusing.

Names stick in most walks of life even if not quite correct or even if absurdity abounds.

It does make like more colourful having to often interpret what someone actually means rather than what they actually state.

Anyway I will have to close for now cos I have a headache in me foot! :giggle:
 
Well @ebee lad?
My fuseboard comment was rather tongue in cheek, remember "enjoying" past discussions with dear departed WINSTON1 about terms like fuseboard, transformer, etc etc ad nauseum..

Have a good day!
 
If we designed a circuit in a domestic property and decided that all of the points would be either BS 546 15A sockets would we design as a ring final or a radial and what would we fuse the circuit at (or MCB size it)
Radial or ring shouldn't matter , preferably radial
There would be little point in a ring, as since neither the socket nor plug fused it would be limited to 15 amps. I suppose you could isolate a part of the ring to work on it, or it could reduce the volt drop, but with domestic that would seem a little pointless.
dear departed WINSTON1
Don't forget @ban-all-sheds they were two of a kind. Although BAS was not as bad.

But I know I do it,
just in the same way that a vacuum cleaner was a "hoover"
well in the main not vacuum cleaners either, but air velocity cleaners, they do not form a vacuum, and the whole idea is the speed of the air takes with it the dirt.

But sometimes one wonders if a mistake, or done to allow a way around a rule, calling a distribution board a consumer unit which is a type of DB which is type tested, means if you do something like fit a non-recommended transformer in the box, it is no longer a consumer unit, so any law referring to a CU is no longer valid. Was this done to allow a way around the law, or was it an error?

I know in France they have a plug socket, where the earth is reversed to the lives, I wonder how they differentiate between the two? But the BS 1363 is either a plug or a socket, not both.

With a brass BA22d bulb holder there is nothing to stop you having an earth to the bulb, but never seen this
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printed on a bulb, yes we know they should be class II, without the sign, but if permitted to omit it with a bulb, what else comes into the same category? Yes in one way pedantic, but people love to find ways to make what they have done seem correct.

With a transformer when replaced we did stick electronic in front of the name, so the switch mode power supply was called an electronic transformer, but the same did not happen with the fluorescent ballast.

So I want to send a radio message, that I need a head lamp bulb, but I had been ribbed that a bulb goes in the garden, so I ordered a head lamp, which is what I got, minus the bulb.

So the correct word is important, so for a Chevy Blazer I want a push-pull bar, but same part on a Landrover was a track rod. OK we know hood, and trunk, not bonnet and boot, but as I wrote this my spell checker flashed up do I want to change to American English.

As to a boiler being considered faulty if it boils the water, where I work we have a one pipe central heating system, steam is fed in one end, and water drips onto the track the other end, it seems this is not what plumbers call a one pipe system.

Is a pill box a concrete structure 1785747132388.png or something to keep pills in?

So we talk about in context, so yes we had
Electric Gaslamps
the gas was air, under pressure, and it powered a small turbine, so there were no electric cables in the intrinsically safe area, we called them air lamps, but air is a gas.

And many gas ovens and hobs, had electric to ignite them. But each trade and situation has its own words, cost of a match is not how much a match costs, but how much it costs for a railway engine to make steam without using any of the steam.

And fusebox is the name of a company who make consumer units, just like hoover is the name of a company who makes air velosity cleaners. So if we see a badge saying Hoover, Fusebox, etc, why not call it by that name?
 
In the old days the definitions for fuses/fuseboxes/distribution boards etc were easy and personally I still don't have too much difficulty, except the titles have spread to accommodate changes to design and requirements etc.

However a board was always a board fitted with components and not covered with an enclosure but the board could be within an enclosure such as this sort of thing was a fuse board
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and this what a distribution board used to be
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Anything containing fuses had fuse in the title so this 1785749000870.pngwas a fuse box and never a CU, to my mind it's still a fuse box.
 
Oh, I love @SUNRAY and his German bottle-fuse fuse-board, I remember the special tool for changing the bases. I worked for a Dutch company in Algeria early 1980s and remember them well.

The thing I hated, was the switch was after the fuse, so fuse always live. Plus wasps making their nests inside the fuse board.
 
The thing I hated, was the switch was after the fuse, so fuse always live. Plus wasps making their nests inside the fuse board.
I bet they were not as much fun as DP fuses on single phase supplies or the hand crafted "Wido Maker" Extesion Lead or the "Suicide Spray Head" for electric showers, though Eric ;) .

Eeh - Electric can be fun it tends to start with the good old "Catch the Capacitor" Game (I wonder if they had one at those recent Glasgow Commonwealth Sports ?)
 
Radial or ring shouldn't matter , preferably radial

It matters a great deal - before we had fused plugs circuits were 15A radials with unfused 15A plugs.

The change to 30A ring finals necessitated changing to fused plugs.


MCB protects cable

With an unfused plug it also protects the power cord.

What size would such cords have to be if their only protection was a 32A MCB or a 30A semi enclosed?

No - you can't have 15A unfused plugs with 30/32A circuits.
 
It matters a great deal - before we had fused plugs circuits were 15A radials with unfused 15A plugs.

The change to 30A ring finals necessitated changing to fused plugs.




With an unfused plug it also protects the power cord.

What size would such cords have to be if their only protection was a 32A MCB or a 30A semi enclosed?
so what size flex was supplied on table lights in the days of BS546 15A?
No - you can't have 15A unfused plugs with 30/32A circuits.
but it would be 15A fused.
 

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