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holmslaw
Re posting so the op does'nt lose the answers he needs in this sea of drivel from bas and softus.
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Bas/ softus I think you should read part P, as you are obviously unaware of the details, you can see it here.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf[/QUOTE]
No - what I can see there, and what you've failed to see properly because it appears you're not too good at reading is Approved Document P, not the actual law.
No - what I will note, and what you have failed to note because it appears you're not too good at reading is that some work is exempt from NOTIFICATION, which is not the same at all as not being required to comply with the rest of the provisions in The Building Regulations.
It was I that wrote that, not Softus, but then you probably didn't spot that because you're not too good at reading.
I know that's what you said.
And you are wrong - you do have to comply with it, it being the law.
It was I that wrote that, not Softus, but then you probably didn't spot that because you're not too good at reading.
I think not...You seeem to be getting a little confused.
Well - I'm sorry you regard it as drivel to point out what the law says.
Anyway - I'm going out, maybe somebody else can try and make you understand that whilst contravening Part P might not have serious consequences it is irresponsible of you to tell the OP that the law doesn't actually apply to him.
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holmslaw
I never said the law did'nt apply to him. I said it does not apply to replacing some spurs with socket outlets.
But that is what he is doing.
And the law makes certain requirements in respect of that work.
So it does apply to him.
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holmslaw
What requirements?
P1 of Part P: "P1 Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations in order to protect persons operating, maintaining or altering the installations from fire or injury. "
This applies to all work on LV and ELV systems in domestic dwellings in England and Wales.
Schedule 2B details what work is non-notifiable, even if it is non-notifiable the work still needs to comply with P1.
This applies to all work on LV and ELV systems in domestic dwellings in England and Wales.
Schedule 2B details what work is non-notifiable, even if it is non-notifiable the work still needs to comply with P1.
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holmslaw
Non-notifiable, means Mr Joe Bloggs you don't have to tell anyone that you are changing some spurs to socket outlets.
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holmslaw
I agree with your thoughts, but the point is part p doesn't say he has to have it tested, just replace like for like (almost) job done. The job is so simple that is extremely unlikely to make the installation unsafe(r) - and I know their are people who could screw it up - but thats beside the point.
If you replaced a s/o or a switch in your home and did'nt have any way of testing it was safe would you be bothered - I don't think so.
So if you replaced all your hard wired FCUs with socket outlets, what provision for RCD protection have you got? Without RCD protection, do the circuits comply with P1 i.e. has reasonable provision to protect persons operating the installation from injury been made?
And (this is a genuine Q - I've not got any books with me), if the heaters were on BS3036s is there an absolute guarantee that disconnection times will be low enough for handheld appliances?
There's a good chance they'll be fine:
Maximum Zs for 0.4s disconnection times.
15A - 2.55ohms
20A - 1.77ohms
Even when reducing the figures to 80% to compare them to measured or calculated EFLI values there should still be enough headroom for a 2.5/1.5 radial.
Maximum Zs for 0.4s disconnection times.
15A - 2.55ohms
20A - 1.77ohms
Even when reducing the figures to 80% to compare them to measured or calculated EFLI values there should still be enough headroom for a 2.5/1.5 radial.
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Well this is where you need an electrician to do the work properly. A diyer is not going to be able to figure out whether a 0.4 second disconnection is acheivable unless he/she is skilled in electrical work. We still don't know whether the OP is using a sparks or aiming to do the work themselves. A 15A BS3036 will require a max of 2.67 Ohm Zs, which is probably acheivable, but then there's the question of upgrading to RCD protection to comply with 2008.
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