Mandelson

pete01 said:

I'll bet anyone a tenna that old Trump never goes to prison or even gets arrested....

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Highway Man said:

It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”

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Mottie said:

within the narrow, technical meaning of that term in the New York penal law".

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King Billy said:

So technically rape then.

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Trump had raped Carroll according to the common definition of the word,

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King Billy said:

You seem to be getting quite desperate to acquire some Tenas.
Can't you just go and buy some? Or do you need two at a time?

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Mottie said:

And I just quoted what the jury said. Maybe that’s the bit you didn’t read or couldn’t understand?

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blup said:

His bail conditions have been lifted and passport returned as he is not a flight risk. Odd that. he is a man of international travel, with a foreign born spouse, and who could be potentially be charged with disclosing highly confidential financial state secrets.

Have to hand it to his brief, they are on the front foot. They already have a defence of found guilty before he was tried.

Peter Mandelson released from bail conditions

Police have decided former minister is not a flight risk, but he remains under investigation

www.theguardian.com

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motorbiking said:

Misconduct in public office is very difficult to make stick.

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morqthana said:

So what were you not reading or understanding when ellal kept talking about the judge, and in the article linked to it quotes the judge as saying

"Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”

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blup said:

I dont think it will stick, in fact its coming unstuck before theyve tried. But there have been suggestions he broke FCA rules, and surely providing confidential financial information breaches the offfcial secrets act.

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motorbiking said:

FCA rules are normally restricted to people who have access to specifics or where they have specific instructions not to disclose
Official Secrets Act - really requires it to be deliberate.

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Mottie said:

Quoting me on a two week old post? You got nothing better to do?

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morqthana said:

Trying to pretend you weren't wrong two weeks ago? You got nothing in your defence better than an interval of a couple of weeks?

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blup said:

I mentioned FCA because Broon mentioned it. raised it. How can immediately forwarding cabinet level info about bailing out the banks not be deliberate?

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