Has anyone any sympathy?

motorbiking said:
25% of adults have a criminal record. Our incarceration rate is around 3-5%. In some countries it’s around 10%.
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How are you defining incarceration rate. Do you mean that, in some countries, 10% of the population will go to prison at some time in their lives.
 
motorbiking said:
25% of adults have a criminal record. Our incarceration rate is around 3-5%. In some countries it’s around 10%.
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25% have a police record. Criminal record has a different meaning, at least in normal use.

For example if you get arrested and released without charge your record remains. Or if you get a penalty notice for littering, or attend an interview voluntarily.
 
IT Minion said:
25% have a police record. Criminal record has a different meaning, at least in normal use.

For example if you get arrested and released without charge your record remains. Or if you get a penalty notice for littering, or attend an interview voluntarily.
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The statistic you quoted is 33%. 1 : 3 adults. I’m referring to those with convictions and cautions.
 
motorbiking said:
I don’t know.
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And what a lot of people don't know is that should you need an enhanced DBS there are police records that are checked for along with those already listed...

Reprimands.
Allegations.

What percentage of the population has one of those?

I don't know either, but my guess is if included, the 'criminal record' figure is far higher than people think applies.
 
Cautions are the biggest scam going. I know plenty of people offered cations who had not admitted guilt and after a 5 minute conversation hadn’t even committed a crime.
 
motorbiking said:
Cautions are the biggest scam going. I know plenty of people offered cations who had not admitted guilt and after a 5 minute conversation hadn’t even committed a crime.
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But they help with 'crime clear up' figures...
 
Indeed. And people don’t realise they cannot easily be cancelled or appealed.
 
motorbiking said:
The statistic you quoted is 33%. 1 : 3 adults. I’m referring to those with convictions and cautions.
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No it isn't. 1 in 4 are on the PNC.

For men the rate goes up to 33% but women only manage 9% I believe.

Estimates of the PNC data say 85% of those are convictions or cautions so it's actually closer to 1 in 5 than 1 in 4 adults have convictions or cautions, spent or unspent.
 
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IT Minion said:
No it isn't. 1 in 4 are on the PNC.

For men the rate goes up to 33% but women only manage 9% I believe.

Estimates of the PNC data say 85% of those are convictions or cautions so it's actually closer to 1 in 5 than 1 in 4 adults have convictions or cautions, spent or unspent.
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