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motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

noseall said:
No need to mock boyo. It makes you look an even bigger tw@.

I'd imagine that if the tidal current AND the wind are in the same direction, and you are in poorly powered vessel, it makes the route across The Channel a vey difficult one to navigate by eye. I'd hazard a guess that in an overloaded boat and a weak engine, most of the effort would be fighting the sideways movement,

Thats not how it works - your boat sits on top of the water and moves with the tide. You don't fight it. Wind and tide in the same direction makes the sea calmer, because the apparent wind is lower and the waves get flattened. When a slow boat crosses the channel they typically follow an S shape as the tide takes them one way and then the other way. If you expect it to take ~6 hours and you have 3 hours of flood followed by 3 hours of ebb, they will pretty much cancel each other out. Particularly in the Dover straits where the streams go from 0-3kts fairly uniformly. There is nothing complex about creating a passage plan to cross the dover strait. Portsmouth to Cherbourg is a different challenge, but still not particularly complex.

noseall said:
Hence...

I'd also hazard a guess that a skilled sailor would navigate it easier with a sail only powered vessel.

Motorboats are infinitely easier to drive.
- work out how fast you are going to go
- calculate the net effect of the tide and adjust your course to steer

noseall said:
Hence - tidal currents can affect crossings - especially when they are combined with other factors.

not from one year to the next.

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
not from one year to the next.

Yes. And from one day to the next. And one week to the next and one month to the next.

Tidal currents can affect crossings. He was correct.

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
stay daft if you want.

Tidal currents can dramatically affect an underpowered vessel in The Channel, significantly altering its steering control and overall speed. In narrow or constricted waterways, where water moves at its fastest, even moderate currents can cause a boat to drift sideways, miss intended waypoints, or struggle to make headway. [1, 2, 3, 4]

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
stay daft if you want.

A sailboat can easily beat an underpowered motor vessel in strong, windy, and tidal conditions. While an underpowered engine might struggle to make headway in adverse winds and waves, a properly handled sailboat uses the wind as an engine, achieving superior speed and maneuverability. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

noseall said:
Tidal currents can dramatically affect an underpowered vessel in The Channel, significantly altering its steering control and overall speed. In narrow or constricted waterways, where water moves at its fastest, even moderate currents can cause a boat to drift sideways, miss intended waypoints, or struggle to make headway. [1, 2, 3, 4]

noseall said:
A sailboat can easily beat an underpowered motor vessel in strong, windy, and tidal conditions. While an underpowered engine might struggle to make headway in adverse winds and waves, a properly handled sailboat uses the wind as an engine, achieving superior speed and maneuverability. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

more evidence you have no clue. The links don't even support the cr*p your AI generated.

ellal · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
see previous answers

Stand down - BorderForce are on task

BorderForce, the French Navy and any vessel in the vicinity as coordinated by the coastguard would act.

Its simply not true.

#talkingbovineexcrement

mbk as usual sunk without trace

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

ellal said:
#talkingbovineexcrement

You are welcome to stop

fillyboy · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
more evidence you have no clue. The links don't even support the cr*p your AI generated.

He needs to learn to go with the flow.

morqthana · 14 Jul 2026

noseall said:
Tidal currents can dramatically affect an underpowered vessel in The Channel, significantly altering its steering control and overall speed. In narrow or constricted waterways, where water moves at its fastest, even moderate currents can cause a boat to drift sideways, miss intended waypoints, or struggle to make headway. [1, 2, 3, 4]

noseall said:
A sailboat can easily beat an underpowered motor vessel in strong, windy, and tidal conditions. While an underpowered engine might struggle to make headway in adverse winds and waves, a properly handled sailboat uses the wind as an engine, achieving superior speed and maneuverability. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

As one of the narrowest and most well-known international waterways lacking dangerous currents, the Channel has been the first objective of numerous innovative sea, air, and human powered crossing technologies.

Koolpc · 15 Jul 2026

Woof!

King Billy · 15 Jul 2026

King Billy said:
What is an Illegal?

motorbiking said:
have a wild guess

Mottie said:
Are you that naive?

Several Right-wing posters, including the two I've quoted, use the term 'illegal migrant' yet those two above are unsure of what an 'illegal migrant' actually is.
I can only assume that they put two words together to make a compound word which they will use persistently to intentionally demonise asylum seekers, but don't understand the meaning of that compound word.

I know it's a daft question, but, does anyone else use words that they are unable to explain the meaning?
I can think of a few, Spineless and his use of the word 'communist' for one. I have asked him several questions about his understanding of the word 'communist' but so far I've had absolutely no response. but he carries on using the word, throwing it around like confetti, without being able to explain its meaning.

Then there's the word 'terrorist' which is totally subjective of one's viewpoint whether it's being used correctly.

King Billy · 15 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
not from one year to the next.

Combined with other effects, such as weather, other traffic, change in launching sites, etc it will make a difference.

noseall · 15 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
irrelevant deflective waffle

noseall · 15 Jul 2026

King Billy said:
There are or were other factors, e.g. weather, tides, variations in beach patrols, launching from Belgium, etc.

Tidal current = massive effect on who makes it across in poorly powered overcorwded small boats. Especially when coupled with other factors like wind direction etc.

King Billy · 15 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
more evidence you have no clue. The links don't even support the cr*p your AI generated.

I think AI is more reliable than a so-called expert who uses his expertise to flatly deny what other experts assert.

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