A whiter shade of Black

[durhamplumber]

We shouldnt hide our heritage because some of it has a dark past,

We should pull it down and destroy it though

 

[durhamplumber]

you are arguing that I am not seeing both sides, yet here you are "ranting on in a mindset devoid of reason"

I am not trying to deny the existence of being English nor wanting to end British heritage.

All I am saying is that Colstons statue with its plaque is a symbol of slavery.
What is wrong with having it removed, then put in a museum where the both good and bad of Colston can be explained.
We shouldnt hide our heritage because some of it has a dark past, but lets not have a monument on public show with a plaque saying 'I spent some of my riches gained from the slave trade on building schools'

So lets pull down any building in Liverpool built with slavery money.Your moral compass seems a bit off...Boris lieing incenses you no end...Bit of mob rule wreckingstuff.Fine

 

[durhamplumber]

spent some of my riches gained from the slave trade on building schools'

Why...if true?????..

 

[Notch7]

So lets pull down any building in Liverpool built with slavery money.Y

you need to stop with the appeal to extremes it is becoming sooooo boring.

you were wrong time.

 

[JP_]

Not trying to be argumentative but who/what is is "printer".

He's a famous mobile typo who is responsible for thousands of errors. I'll edit.

 

[Notch7]

Your moral compass seems a bit off

how?

 

[sodthisforfun]

Not all about mixing..There were no blacks in our school but I did not grow up racist

Yes it can help. It's not the only reason not to become racist.

 

[Notch7]

Boris lieing incenses you no end

no it doesnt.

I point it out because a PM lying is damaging our democracy.

 

[durhamplumber]

It's not the only reason not to become racist.

You make it sound like a career choice

 

[Notch7]

Bit of mob rule wreckingstuff.Fine

where did I say it was fine.

I said, sometimes protests are the only way to enact social change........can you not see that?

 

[sodthisforfun]

Bit dramatic i agree whats up with me today? I think its my time of the month, but it's the erosion, the lack of appreciation, too many people want to tag nationalism and racism when it's patriotism and a bit of pride being who we are. Too many want to just deny what we are, fking British if you dont like it.... you know where you can go.

It's all sorts of people who don't want the statues - not just ethnic minorities. So where do the white Brits go?!

And perhaps todays standards are something to be proud of too... saying no to racism. Pretty darn good to me.

 

[sodthisforfun]

You make it sound like a career choice

Shrug. Not sure why you bothered replying with that tbh.

So lets pull down any building in Liverpool built with slavery money.Your moral compass seems a bit off...Boris lieing incenses you no end...Bit of mob rule wreckingstuff.Fine

Another overreaction.
Sigh.
We are talking about a few statues of the figures themselves.

 

[JP_]

What I am seeing now is the end of the British heritage, our culture and the history that has made our country the place other nations want to turn to for help in their times of need.

Bit of an exaggeration. It's not like people are calling to tear down statues of Shakespeare, Newton, or the Melton Mowbray pork pie factory.

Just a few people who, basically, only have statues because they were rich and paid for them out of the money made on what we consider crime today. Savile's statue was taken down pretty quick, nobody complained about the loss of an 80's icon that many here probably enjoyed watching on the TV at some point. But maybe some people don't think raping and killing a million black people 200 years ago is as bad as raping some children 20 years ago.

 

[durhamplumber]

where did I say it was fine.

So is it ok to pull statues down in a riot ?

 

[sodthisforfun]

But maybe some people don't think raping and killing a million black people 200 years ago is as bad as raping some children 20 years ago.

I wonder why.......