Abnormally high UK temperatures continue

[morqthana]

People might be a little less sceptical if the government stopped using "climate disaster" to tax us more with things like climate levy's. Charging a EV car an extra "luxury tax" - taxing elements of heat pumps and solar install.

Like officials exaggerating by saying things like "the world is burning" and then - all we need to fix it is higher tax

Pushed out just before a new "climate" tax is announced.
Feel scammed yet.

Your tax hatred tells me all I need to know about your bias.

 

[MNW67]

Disregard the OP: Their post is nonsense, unproven "it's climate change" fearmongering at its very worst.

Yes it is a little warm today but this is just normal variation in the weather like there has always been. There is no evidence (despite all of their bleating and manufactured data) of human activity having any effect on our climate - and, equally, no evidence of our climate changing in any way outside of normal ebbs and flows. Remember, it was only so many years ago that *they* were telling us we were heading for an ice age. When that didn't happen, they fiddled the numbers in their spreadsheets and claimed "global warming! global warming!" Anything to keep the funding rolling I guess.

Enjoy the warm weather. It'll be winter - a perfectly normal winter as they all are - way too soon.

There's no doubt there's been a big change in the past twenty years in daily maximums. Four days of 30C+ here in Yorkshire was unheard of back then. These spells are 3C to 4C higher than we used to get. The mechanism proposed is that the Arctic is warming much faster than the tropics, which causes the jet stream to lose power. It kinks and we suck in hot air from the south or east.

 

[Justin Passing]

To whom it may concern but it doesn't , except as a vector to post nonsense:

Extreme heat can be fatal due to several mechanisms. The most direct is heat stroke, where the body's thermoregulatory system fails, leading to dangerously high core temperature. This can cause organ damage, especially to the brain, liver, and kidneys.

Dehydration from excessive sweating further reduces blood volume, straining the heart. Cardiovascular collapse and arrhythmias can occur. Vulnerable populations—such as the elderly, infants, or people with cardiovascular or respiratory conditions—are at highest risk.

Additionally, pre-existing chronic illnesses can be exacerbated by heat stress, leading to multi-organ failure.

Statements like, "But they would have died anyway" are of course completely true, they would.
But they wouldn't have died YET.
I don't know what characteristics make people say that sort of crap, but any of being thick, ignorant, arrogant, lazy, obdurate, uneducated, a troll and that, would do it.
The same list applies to those who try to claim that climate change is not being massively propelled by human activities.
Educate yourself or STFU because you're being a tit.

 

[Justin Passing]

There's no doubt there's been a big change in the past twenty years in daily maximums. Four days of 30C+ here in Yorkshire was unheard of back then. These spells are 3C to 4C higher than we used to get. The mechanism proposed is that the Arctic is warming much faster than the tropics, which causes the jet stream to lose power. It kinks and we suck in hot air from the south or east.

It's predicted by the models we have. If you go back to the fundamentals which drive the climate and weather. Marine and atmospheric dynamics are influenced by the proven impacts of human behaviour.
The Great Gyre (marine) and Hdley and Walker atmospheric cells, are all in a dynamic cycle or equilibrium, subject to being wobbled, if you like. Everything affects everything else.
E.g. a drift in Walker cells gives us el nino/la nina, which change ocean currents. They can "flip". That changes seasons of weather in a large area. If the gulf stream flips, it'll be a disaster for Northern Europe. The models - helped by AI I daresay, are getting better at quantifying.

 

[Highway Man]

The simple answer to these vulnerable people dying through or with the help of the heat is that if you value your life and as you are so weak and feeble to cope, then wouldnt it make sense to have at least one air conditioned room in your house so that you may avoid it. It is no use moping around and moaning that your hot and then die. Some people will just not help themselves. Life is tough and some people just need to toughen up.

 

[warey4life]

They were in a way. Especially when it came to net zero!

Not another brainwashed Reform type

 

[King Billy]

Some do, yes. People drowning from taking to the water because of the heat. Some people die in wildfires made more likely or larger because of the heat.

Don't forget the increased risk of skin cancer.

 

[King Billy]

Extreme heat can be fatal due to several mechanisms. The most direct is heat stroke, where the body's thermoregulatory system fails, leading to dangerously high core temperature. This can cause organ damage, especially to the brain, liver, and kidneys.

The body's thermoregulatory system requires energy to operate, which is why hot conditions can drain our energy and make us feel tired.
It's sensible to reduce high energy-demanding activities during such times of high temeratures.
Dehydration causes further complications.
It takes hundreds and thousands of years for humans to adapt to such conditions as we're likely to experience in the next few decades.
Technology can help, but that brings its own counter-productive effects.

 

[warey4life]

I get ya, I just dont know how to 100% believe it without knowing what was happening 270000 years ago or whenever....

How far back do we have official records? 150 years?

Scientists can accurately determine global temperatures going back thousands of years by analysing the chemical composition of ice cores and ocean sediment.

To deny human activity has not rapidly increased global warming is to deny reality.

Global carbon emissions and temperature increased rapidly from when the industrial revolution started.

 

[warey4life]

I knew it would be too much for you to understand.

You'd rather believe Farage who receives funding from the fossil fuel industry over climate scientists.

 

[ellal]

I would want to see the medical records of anyone that died through the heat, only then can you safely quote deaths due to the heat rather than simply a contributing factor.

So going by that logic, I assume that you would agree the same should have applied a few years back to people who were very ill/terminal but had contracted the 'virus' however severe or not and then died?

Because for some time it was simply recorded as a 'virus death' without taking their medical situation into account, as opposed to the 'virus' being a 'contributing factor'.

Were those death figures at the time safely quotable?

 

[Koolpc]

I went to Turkey a few years ago and it was like a hundred degrees or summat and I went for a run.

In a fridge?

 

[Koolpc]

OMG I wrote a suvival guide to help everyone.

"How to survive being thrown off of a cherry picker"

 

[Highway Man]

So going by that logic, I assume that you would agree the same should have applied a few years back to people who were very ill/terminal but had contracted the 'virus' however severe or not and then died?

Because for some time it was simply recorded as a 'virus death' without taking their medical situation into account, as opposed to the 'virus' being a 'contributing factor'.

Were those death figures at the time safely quotable?

No that was not reliable data with dying of the virus, that is why I quoted it as an example of how easily data can be either manipulated or point in the wrong direction entirely.

 

[Highway Man]

The weather and deaths caused by it are out of proportion and just frightening people. You can have all of the fanciest graphs you like but the fact remains that normal healthy people do not die from a heatwave. Those that do would have severe immunity issues to begin with and the heat may aggravate the condition rather than actually kill them, precautions can be taken to avoid death from the heat so probably their own fault if you were unfortunate enough to actually die. You have to be sensible about these things and protect yourself and not expect everyone to do it for you.