Late 80s, very early 90s, I would say.
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What I always remember was a course I went on about 2005, and the instructor explained that the way it's going to remain apparent whether an installation was likely to have been installed after the new regulations came into force, and therefore had probably needed to be notified through BC was the obvious change of colour.
You may think it was just a coincidence that the two changes in the electrical industry came about around the same time, some would disagree.
Whilst what you are implying would obviously make some sense, I suspect that it really was essentially a pure coincidence. The change to harmonised colours for non-flexible cables was very long in the planning, and the date of change was very probably decided long before anyone had even dreamed about a 'Part P' - don't forget that those harmonised colours had been introduced for flexible cables very many years (decades) earlier
And, unusually, this particular change (permitted colours) had a two year time scale not six months.
So as an indicator of "possible" OK but not a chance of any "certainty", the colour changed bridged Part P which allowed either colour scheme both before and after Part P came about.
You might look at paperwork and see an outstanding number of installations that were "officially done" before Part P and notice a great big spike in statistics, far greater than random chance might suggest.
It is not for me to suggest that some juggling around with dates was used to circumvent some aspects of Part P.
Edited to note - The permitted colours of fixed wiring became many years after the permitted colours for flexes (at that time it bcame very common to hear "Only for Flexes never for fixed wiring!") .
Hooh how wrong they were!
So as an indicator of "possible" OK but not a chance of any "certainty", the colour changed bridged Part P which allowed either colour scheme both before and after Part P came about.
You might look at paperwork and see an outstanding number of installations that were "officially done" before Part P and notice a great big spike in statistics, far greater than random chance might suggest.
It is not for me to suggest that some juggling around with dates was used to circumvent some aspects of Part P.
Edited to note - The permitted colours of fixed wiring became many years after the permitted colours for flexes (at that time it bcame very common to hear "Only for Flexes never for fixed wiring!") .
Hooh how wrong they were!
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I wonder if this installation is earlier than the fuseboard
How old is the property?
How old is the property?
Yes that is viable a question
If it is, I think we are only talking about 10 years.
Indeed so - and I have a feeling that it may only have been necessary to be able to argue that the work had been 'designed' prior to the advent of Part P to be 'exempt' from it, even if the work were actually done appreciably later.
I don't really think that anyone could criticise you for making such a suggestion, even if you did
Kind Regards, John
It was nothing to do with Part P.
'Officially', it obviously wasn't. The question being debated is that of whether the interesting 'co-incidence of implementation dates' may have been in some ways 'manipulated'.
As I recently wrote, I suspect that the dates for implementation of the harmonised colours may well have been decided years before (and quite possibly years before Part P had even been thought of), but when Part P came along, it's not impossible that the 'harmonisation date' was one of the factors taken into consideration in deciding when Part P was to be implemented!
Exactly, but some people have tried to include it and some people have suggested they occurred at the same time thereby .
Indeed our local building inspector said he would use the colours of evidence of Part P or not.
Indeed I have heard more than one person claiming that "Part P came about because of the death of a Minister`s Daughter". Bolder Dash.
Probably the same inspector who won't sign off SUNRAY's work until he does something that isn't required.
I was still installing rewirable Wylex boards well into the 90's. We moved into the house I'm in now in lat 1994 and it was several years later I changed one of these
To an 8way version of these
If you're referring to the crazy earth bonding situation it was far from only me affected.
Most of the Wylex rewirable carriers were getting swapped for push button MCBs, and then toggle MCBs in the 80s.
It's surprising if rewireables were getting installed in the 90s.
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