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An interesting read about how the Tories manipulate the media
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Why do you assume i do?
The Tories have little influence on foreign news media (except the Murdoch dynasty, which has influence on the Tories)
An interesting article in the Washington Post said:
"Parliament rebelled again. Johnson wanted them to vote on just a one paragraph motion saying they would accept his plan. Instead, they demanded to see the full legislation of what it entailed.
And this was the nightmare scenario for Johnson: Not only would it delay matters, it would also force him to reveal the details of his plans.
Johnson is not really a details man...
...But even if he had greater mastery over the details, there was a larger problem: Brexit functions only when it has no contact with reality. The referendum campaign was won by telling well-off golf club voters in southern England that they had the same enemy as the left-behind voters in the postindustrial towns of the north. At the level of rhetoric and blame-the-foreigner sloganeering, it works. But when you try to formulate it as a coherent policy proposal, the whole thing falls apart.
The same applies to Parliament. The coalition Johnson needs to stitch together involves hard right-wing Brexiters, moderate Conservatives — most of them now purged from the party for voting against Johnson — and left-wing Labour MPs with Leave constituencies. They all want to get Brexit done. But once you get down into the reality of what it entails, the alliance disintegrates."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ring-that-brexit-only-works-when-its-fantasy/
Poor Boris.
An interesting article in the Washington Post said:
"Parliament rebelled again. Johnson wanted them to vote on just a one paragraph motion saying they would accept his plan. Instead, they demanded to see the full legislation of what it entailed.
And this was the nightmare scenario for Johnson: Not only would it delay matters, it would also force him to reveal the details of his plans.
Johnson is not really a details man...
...But even if he had greater mastery over the details, there was a larger problem: Brexit functions only when it has no contact with reality. The referendum campaign was won by telling well-off golf club voters in southern England that they had the same enemy as the left-behind voters in the postindustrial towns of the north. At the level of rhetoric and blame-the-foreigner sloganeering, it works. But when you try to formulate it as a coherent policy proposal, the whole thing falls apart.
The same applies to Parliament. The coalition Johnson needs to stitch together involves hard right-wing Brexiters, moderate Conservatives — most of them now purged from the party for voting against Johnson — and left-wing Labour MPs with Leave constituencies. They all want to get Brexit done. But once you get down into the reality of what it entails, the alliance disintegrates."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ring-that-brexit-only-works-when-its-fantasy/
Poor Boris.
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So you made your decision on evidence. So share this evidence and convince us all. If it stands up, I will be the first to say well done.
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Brilliant. Brexit only works in the mind, it's a state of mind.
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I didn't make it sound anything - it's a BBC article, not mine!
And I do of course blame cutbacks, but my personal experience with the NHS, as much as it should be treasured, are appalling. And before you say anything, this is nearly 30 years ago.
GP surgeries are private businesses. The less they send people for tests, the more money they save. That's the point I was making. It's not always the patients interests put first.
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Freekin jeezus
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Most gracious of you
Leave and Remain voters say violence against MPs and serious injuries to public ‘price worth paying’ to get favoured Brexit outcome
Thats what you get when people like Johnson create division and unite people against a common enemy.
Thats what you get when people like Johnson create division and unite people against a common enemy.
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I read that earlier - it's utterly depressing and its a reflection of the curren hijack of the Tory party by chancers, liars and opportunists. But also it reflects how people feel no connection with the current political climate. It's long due time for electoral reform and smash the stranglehold the two main parties hold.
The irony of our system is that its winner takes all, so they can enact policies that they had no mandate for because they have a majority. That's not democratic. We need a more pluralist system because the current two party system has become too divisive and partisan.
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No.what you end up with is tiresome remoaners twisting words into the thing they despise most.LIES
Remainers do despise lies, yes.
that's why Buffoon and his acolytes are so despised.
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But never the ones they constantly spout
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