And There It Was........Gone!

[^woody^]

Brexit was about enabling Tory govt to deregulate for self interest.

What a stupid comment. There was an option for a labour government to deliver Brexit.

Move on

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Like I said, **** the ex-pats who don't want to live here but want all the benefits.

Which they were prepared to pay for, but that option has now been removed. Loss of income for UK service suppliers.
Alongside the example I quoted yesterday about the loss of a laptop sale due to tariffs applied. It will add up to a substantial loss of income. And we're only three days in, so far.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

What a stupid comment. There was an option for a labour government to deliver Brexit.

Move on

A very different Brexit, including harmonisation of EU legislation, allowing participation in the single market.

 

[fillyboy]

Brexit is now successfully over and done with, so thank you to all who voted for it.

Let's not forget that the Brexit vote was about the principle of good (the people) versus evil (arrogant politicians) and not about selfish individual financial concerns.

Goodness has triumphed and now rather than harping about Brexit we need to concentrate on that other great evil of our times, China.

Boycott Chinese products!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ng-China-customers-complained-government.html

Interesting article on China. Of several things Trump got right, sanctions against China were one of them. Whilst the EU has had a deteriorating relationship with the US under Trump,
that was expected to change under Biden, that is, until they signed an investment pack with China last week.
It seems bizarre that when most of the world are turning against China, the EU are crawling under the dirty blankets with them.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Interesting article on China. Of several things Trump got right, sanctions against China were one of them. Whilst the EU has had a deteriorating relationship with the US under Trump,
that was expected to change under Biden, that is, until they signed an investment pack with China last week.
It seems bizarre that when most of the world are turning against China, the EU are crawling under the dirty blankets with them.

Perspective and bias is a useful prism through which to view the world.

Selection of Biased Detector Sub-Score Definitions

1. Value laden language – injects a writer's own subjective values into the presentation of issues/facts; subjective opinion or positively/negatively loaded language; partial tone; sensationalism.

https://newsframes.globalvoices.org/tools/using-bias-prism-in-newsframes/​

 

[^woody^]

Perspective and bias is a useful prism through which to view the world.

Selection of Biased Detector Sub-Score Definitions

1. Value laden language – injects a writer's own subjective values into the presentation of issues/facts; subjective opinion or positively/negatively loaded language; partial tone; sensationalism.

https://newsframes.globalvoices.org/tools/using-bias-prism-in-newsframes/​

Give us a definition of irony and hypocrisy while you're at it

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Give us a definition of irony and hypocrisy while you're at it

You are onerous sometimes, woody.
Here are some examples of filly's biased perspective.

Interesting article on China. Of several things Trump got right, sanctions against China were one of them. Whilst the EU has had a deteriorating relationship with the US under Trump,
that was expected to change under Biden, that is, until they signed an investment pack with China last week.
It seems bizarre that when most of the world are turning against China, the EU are crawling under the dirty blankets with them.

The deteriorating relationship had nothing to do with Trump, but more to do with China's behaviour.
Economy, trade agreements can be entirely separate from political differences. Only Trump mixed up the two.
It's a loaded assumption to relate US to the "most of the world ".

 

[^woody^]

You are onerous sometimes, woody.
Here are some examples of filly's biased perspective.

The deteriorating relationship had nothing to do with Trump, but more to do with China's behaviour.
Economy, trade agreements can be entirely separate from political differences. Only Trump mixed up the two.
It's a loaded assumption to relate US to the "most of the world ".

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

BTW is this the very investment treaty that I posted about a while ago?
The same treaty that I used to illustrate the EU's double standards in their negotiations with the UK and with China?
The same treaty that you said was not going to be signed?
The same treaty that I am now using to point out your own bias?

 

[fillyboy]

BTW is this the very investment treaty that I posted about a while ago?
The same treaty that I used to illustrate the EU's double standards in their negotiations with the UK and with China?
The same treaty that you said was not going to be signed?
The same treaty that I am now using to point out your own bias?

That's the one mate.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

BTW is this the very investment treaty that I posted about a while ago?

Possibly. I haven't looked.

The same treaty that I used to illustrate the EU's double standards in their negotiations with the UK and with China?

MAny countries trade with other countries, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, N Korea, etc.
Political differences are separate from trade and commerce.

The same treaty that you said was not going to be signed?

Possibly. I haven't looked, The latest reports at that time, was that it wasn't going to be signed any time soon.

The same treaty that I am now using to point out your own bias?

It's not biased to keep up with the news and latest information, but you might consider it so.
Apart from that, aren't we in danger of drifting away from the original discussion of the biased and emotive language exploited by filly, to more specific and minute points about which trade deal is under discussion.
Anything I said about the deal would have not been loaded with such biased and emotive language.

Let us not forget that the EU - China deal replaces numerous smaller deals with individual countries, so it's hardly groundbreaking, merely harmonising.
You may want to look back to see what I said about it then.

 

[^woody^]

I posted that the treaty was agreed, and ready to sign. You said it wasn't.

Fast forward to today

Possibly. I haven't looked, The latest reports at that time, was that it wasn't going to be signed any time soon.

It's not biased to keep up with the news and latest information, but you might consider it so.

Is this bias? Irony or hypocrisy?

 

[^woody^]

I feel like a little duck making rings around an old lumbering goose.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

1000%

what’s this?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I posted that the treaty was agreed, and ready to sign. You said it wasn't.

Latest reports at that time was that it wasn't.

Fast forward to today
Is this bias? Irony or hypocrisy?

Luck on your part, I'd say.

I repeat, let's not forget that the new agreement replaces numerous smaller, diverse agreements with multiple countries. It harmonises the agreement across the EU.
It also includes improved protections for China's workforce, among other things.
So rather than get bogged down in who was right and who was wrong on a lucky guess, nor slate purely because it is against US's interest, let's concentrate on the benefits of the new agreement,

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

I posted that the treaty was agreed, and ready to sign. You said it wasn't.

Fast forward to today





Is this bias? Irony or hypocrisy?

I predict a break for bobby in the near future. he’s lost the plot again.