Assisted dying bill.

[motorbiking]

It was never fit for purpose to start with. In my view there was no logic in making it only available to people with 6 months to live and the whole process of applying for a "divorce from life" is nuts.

 

[Murdochcat]

Passing the assisted dying bill is long over due.

You can take yourself to Dignitas, Switzerland but what if you are disabled?

I have zero faith in parliament voting this through as too many MPs are too worried about what their constituents will think

So either allow a blind vote or put it to the people.

Let us decide, not the muppets in the HoC

 

[JohnD]

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[Justin Passing]

Because unlike many physical illnesses, depression can be treated.

You're depressed I assume, judging by your posts.

 

[Highway Man]

Oh? How?

If you mean I can do it now, yes, I can, easily. The only difference is that there's nobody to come and watch.

Religion is inevitably bound up in this, but if you remove all of that, then getting out of bed/chair/off the floor in the morning, is pretty pointless. Once you've had your life hollowed out/amputated by in my case, the death of a lifelong partner, there's no fun, no enjoyment, just a steepening struggle to get to the next, steeper bit, to merely stay alive. That's just a built-in urge without which there wouldn't be the species, but theres no value in having it, as far as I can see.

I'm a pile of "chattels" which nobody I know particularly needs or would want to wade through, except for monetary value.
But the law won't allow me to roll up at some appropriate facility to say, "ok I'm ready".
Why?

You have gone or are going through the wars mate, how long has this been?

 

[Justin Passing]

Mine is is a factual situation - philosphical if you like. Depression is qualitatively different.
Life has pleasant bits and unpleasant bits.
- Sure, it's clearest where someone has a rapid physical degradation
If the balance tips and the trajectory is clear then why would anyone want more of it?
That's not an illness in itself.

 

[pete01]

Assisted dying bill expected to fail.

Ridiculous.

 

[Brigadier]

On R5L today.

Been delayed by 1200-odd amendments put forward by 7 lords.

Debate today is not more of the same - as this will clearly achieve nothing beyond what it already has (not) - but one on the principle of assisted dying.

That way, everyone will be able to see whether "the seven" have genuine detail concerns, or are just stalling based on ideological objections.

 

[Vinty]

It would be a license for greedy relatives to pressurise a loved one into topping themselves. The real scandal is underfunded end of life care. You can imagine the google search returns with companies vying to sell their services. It will be far from cheap and available as a benefit because it is a human right. It’s astonishing that the government are penalising web sites that promote sui cide and then promote it themselves.

The same with abortion.
They said it would be strictly controlled.
Nowadays it just another form of birth control.
Abortion pills can be bought over the counter in Chemist's.
Since Sir David Steele , the former Liberal MP behind the legalisation of the practice, around 10 million terminations have taken place in the UK.
He is responsible for the deaths of more Brits than Adolf Hitler.

 

[Vinty]

I would bet that if Dr Shipman was still alive he would vote for it.