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[morqthana]

Indeed so. I presume that lat/long is non-proprietary and hence 'free to use', but I wonder if, at least theoretically, one is meant to pay to make commercial use of OS grid references?

Dunno. I tried to find out but lost the will to live due to more AI slop:

The source for that is supposedly a Wikipedia page.

Which says nothing of the sort, does not deal with that subject in any way, nor contain any of the text in the search result.

 

[JohnW2]

You seem to be overlooking the fact that when you zoom out on a satnav or other digital map application to see a larger area you lose detail.

I'm talking about 'zooming in' (to see the detail), not 'zooming out' (which, as you say, will inevitably result in loss of detail).

 

[JohnW2]

Dunno. I tried to find out but lost the will to live due to more AI slop: ... The source for that is supposedly a Wikipedia page. ... Which says nothing of the sort, does not deal with that subject in any way, nor contain any of the text in the search result.

Interesting. In view of what we've been discussing about what this 'AI' actually does, I presume that it presumably must have 'read' that material somewhere, even if it incorrectly attributes it to Wikipedia?

 

[SimonH2]

Sat nav cabbie takes Earl Spencer’s daughter to wrong Stamford Bridge

One venue was hosting the clash of London’s football titans while the other was a sleepy Yorkshire village that hosted a famous battle more than 900 years earlier.Unfortunately for Earl Spencer’s

www.thetimes.com

Yes, some good examples there of "not doing any basic sanity checking".
Unless it's somewhere I've been before, I zoom out on the sat-nav and look at where it's taking me. Is the destination even in the right direction ? Such a basic check would have stopped the young lady being taken to Yorkshire instead of London - you don't need much screen resolution to tell the difference ! It would also have stopped some fo the other cock-ups listed.

As for the stuck lorry, that's a common problem of "information not sufficient and system not applying "nouse".
Near me there's a little narrow road - perhaps only 100yds long. It's one that locals know not to use, it's barely wide enough for a small car. But a sat nav doesn't know that, so for many uses - such as an unfortunate Amazon delivery driver - it's the shortest route by a long way between buildings at either end of it. SWMBO used to keep an eye on a second home next to it - one day we were there to check round, and we found a stuck van. The driver was getting a bit panicked as he had no mobile signal and couldn't get out as the walls either side were too high. He did have the sense to reverse out as soon as he saw how narrow it was - but at that point, his engine expired leaving him stuck. For good measure, a stone had chocked his front wheel so he couldn't even roll down the hill to where the wall was a bit lower on one side. I was able to shift the stone, he rolled down a bit more, got his jump leads out of the back, but it wasn't going. If I'd had my Land Rover on the road at the time I'd have considered getting it and pulling him back up the hill - but as it was, we had to leave him arguing with Amazon once he got to where there was a phone signal.

When you unfold a paper map to see a larger area you do not lose detail.

Indeed, but if you want a large area and high resolution, then you end up with an impractically large map. Anything larger than the (I'm guessing) A0 sort of size used for the OS Landranger (1:50,000) maps gets very awkward to use - especially if in a confined space (e.g. in a car or small aircraft cockpit), or outside where the wind will be doing it's best to separate you from it. So when you get to the 1:25,000 maps which show every building, field boundaries, and so on (so really useful when off the roads) the area covered is much less and there's a lot more sheets to cover the UK.
Back when I was flying, we tended to use the half-mil (1:500,000) charts which cover the UK in three sheets. There's the 1/4 mil (1:250,000), but then your route crosses multiple sheets and it's harder to manage even though they show more detail which is useful if flying at lower altitudes. But even if your route only uses one sheet, there's a definite knack of how to fold the chart (while still on the ground) to make it possible to use in the air.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

You seem to be overlooking the point of zooming (coupled with scrolling).

Which explains the point of having access to paper maps - the 'screen size', is many times bigger

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Yes, some good examples there of "not doing any basic sanity checking".
Unless it's somewhere I've been before, I zoom out on the sat-nav and look at where it's taking me. Is the destination even in the right direction ? Such a basic check would have stopped the young lady being taken to Yorkshire instead of London - you don't need much screen resolution to tell the difference ! It would also have stopped some fo the other cock-ups listed.

It happened to me once, whilst on emergency standby, one night. The 'out of hours desk', rang me and asked me to go to a certain town, but without mentioning the county. I set the town up on the satnav, drove there, but failed to find the business anywhere in the small town. Rang the desk for better details, and they were unable to help. It turned out the actual town in question, was in the Black Country, rather than the much nearer north-east, I had assumed and had made my way to. They had obviously made the same assumption as me, and I was the nearest 'on emergency call' to the town.

 

[JohnW2]

Which explains the point of having access to paper maps - the 'screen size', is many times bigger

Precisely.

As I've said to morqthana, he is preaching to the converted - unless it were totally unavoidable (no better alternative available!) I would personally not dream of looking for fine detail in a map over a substantial area on a screen not a lot bigger than a postage stamp

I was merely 'the messenger', in suggesting the view that my offspring (and probably most of their generation, and subsequent generations) would probably express - I doubt that (m)any of them even possess any printed maps!

 

[JohnW2]

.... That would be a first.

I'm not so sure about that. Even in the 'pre-digital' days, the OS were making substantial amounts of money by selling 'historical maps', so I rather doubt they would want to restrict (or prevent) their ability to do that in the (perhaps distant) future!