BMW Clutch

[rexel2]

Its hard to describe but im getting a grumbling/ rubbing noise when my foot simply rests on the clutch pedal and in neutral

when it is off completely there is no noise then when pushing in slightly or just as much as the weight of my foot rests on it i get the noise which disapears when pushed in fully.

Can't really hear any noise when in gear as engine noise drowns out.

Any ideas. If just wear should it be ok to leave until gets worse rather than get it looked at

2006 1 series 118d with 80'000 miles

Thanks

 

[Mursal]

Foot resting on the pedal = Clutch release bearing going to fail

Sometimes excessive wear in the engine trust washers can give the same symptoms.

Either way slip in to the local Mechanic and get it checked out.

If you are going in for a clutch get a price. As the dual mass flywheel will probably be on the list. The 3 clutch items, flywheel and labour can be expensive.

 

[rexel2]

Ok if clutch release bearing can I drive away as normal or what will the outcome be if it fails.
Undriveable/more damage etc

 

[Peter.N.]

You can drive it but if it fails the pedal will probably go to the floor and you won't be able to disengage the clutch, that could happen in 10 miles or 10,000, if you can drive it home without the clutch, don't worry about it.

Peter

 

[stuartturbo]

just had the three done on my meriva
Symptoms where noise as you described about 18months ago (about 30000miles) i then struggled to change gear above 3000rpm for the last 2 mont then in the space of 50miles I had no clutch peddle

the mechanic said the dual mass went first then took out the slave.
rattle was the flywheel rather than the slave like i thought it was

 

[nickso]

If you are keeping the car see if there is a dual mass delete kit for this model. I have removed it on several of my BMW's but they are all older models and I don't know the availability on yours.

 

[millerman]

If you are keeping the car see if there is a dual mass delete kit for this model. I have removed it on several of my BMW's but they are all older models and I don't know the availability on yours.

Good post fella, this will be a much cheaper option for him.

 

[rexel2]

Thanks what sort of money/parts/labour are we takling for this?

Also when i give the car any revs (1500) the problem seems to be eliminated and dont get any grumbling?

 

[nickso]

Parts prices can be found on the net with a search.

Labour depends on who is doing it. BMW may ask for a leg as a downpayment but a BMW specialist or decent garage will be more reasonable.

I would advise you to get them to diagnose it first anyway, you don't want to shelling out money on advice from a forum.

 

[stuartturbo]

Just paid £140 labour for all three generally but this was 4.2 hrs labour looking at about 6.35hr hours labour to the book this is

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[andyandy2]

Just paid £140 labour for all three generally but this was 4.2 hrs labour looking at about 6.35hr hours labour to the book this is

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You wouldn't get 6.35 hours to change clutch and flywheel, you would get 3.25 hours, the clutch has to be removed to replace the flywheel, so you would just get the flywheel replacement time (i.e. clutch replacement 3.10 + 0.15 to unbolt the flywheel = 3.25)

 

[Belle427]

If you are keeping the car see if there is a dual mass delete kit for this model. I have removed it on several of my BMW's but they are all older models and I don't know the availability on yours.

sound advice financially but modern high torque diesel engines you are asking for trouble by not putting a dual mass flywheel back in.
ive read lots of horror stories about problems as the torsional forces are basically moved elsewhere

 

[nickso]

If you are keeping the car see if there is a dual mass delete kit for this model. I have removed it on several of my BMW's but they are all older models and I don't know the availability on yours.

sound advice financially but modern high torque diesel engines you are asking for trouble by not putting a dual mass flywheel back in.
ive read lots of horror stories about problems as the torsional forces are basically moved elsewhere

Yeh but it's a 118d. High torque is not really an issue here.

 

[Belle427]

If you are keeping the car see if there is a dual mass delete kit for this model. I have removed it on several of my BMW's but they are all older models and I don't know the availability on yours.

sound advice financially but modern high torque diesel engines you are asking for trouble by not putting a dual mass flywheel back in.
ive read lots of horror stories about problems as the torsional forces are basically moved elsewhere

Yeh but it's a 118d. High torque is not really an issue here.

i dont know the figures but i would guess it is

 

[Burnerman]

Only my opinion on the DMF - its actually a wonderful, necessary and very clever piece of kit, that can handle the high torque and high revolutions of todays high speed diesels - the like of which we have never seen before.
Hopefully the manufacturers will eventually come up with one that doesn't fly apart.....
John