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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rules-out-city-firms-passporting-after-brexit
I hope this is all posturing.
I hope this is all posturing.
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Sky news bud. Hardly anti eu.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...y-Michel-Barnier-Northern-Ireland-hard-border
Mr Barnier said today there were "no surprises" in the 120-page draft document, which includes procedures for putting into operation the "alignment" of Northern Irish regulations with the EU rulebook
From sky news...
https://news.sky.com/story/no-options-acceptable-for-irish-brexit-border-11270430
And so the only option that, for the EU side, seems feasible to prevent a hard border is option three - Northern Ireland aligns with EU regulations
Read it and weep loser.
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They have a plan, supposedly:
We are just not telling anyone.....
Whether this supposed plan will be an acceptable plan........
https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...y-Michel-Barnier-Northern-Ireland-hard-border
Mr Barnier said today there were "no surprises" in the 120-page draft document, which includes procedures for putting into operation the "alignment" of Northern Irish regulations with the EU rulebook
From sky news...
https://news.sky.com/story/no-options-acceptable-for-irish-brexit-border-11270430
And so the only option that, for the EU side, seems feasible to prevent a hard border is option three - Northern Ireland aligns with EU regulations
From your beloved guardian...
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...lan-to-keep-northern-ireland-in-customs-union
"We are just saying that on the island there are two countries, we need to fund the capacity for certain issues relating to the internal market and customs union, that we need to ensure the Good Friday agreement can function ... We need to ensure there is regulatory consistency, alignment".
Michel Barnier.
Read it and weep loser.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43277181
I would appear that TM's idea is to pretend the border is just not there:
Maybe there will be a new member to the cabinet:
Come on, Roger, you know it doesn't work like that.
You have to show it in bold caps, underlined, and on a velvet pillow.
JD is allowed nuance and implication, to "support his claim".
Them's the rules
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Let us see if we can clear up this misunderstanding:
However there is no support for his claim in the quotes provided.
It is clearly not a case of 'want', but a case of need. That is what TM agreed to as a backstop in December in order to progress to the next stage.
Now the responsibility is for UK to come up with a credible solution to avoid the fall back to the backstop position
So far, only a wish list from TM. But she has a very high wire act to attempt between DUP, Ireland, Remainers, Brexiteer and EU, and of course the fickle UK MPs. Equivalent to, perhaps, a trapeze multiple somersault, landing on a tightrope (supported by sky hooks), while throwing knives at a revolving target, and telling jokes at the same time.
And she volounteered for the job.
It will be now subject to negotiation, but we have already seen Ireland doubt the suggested proposal.
Then there is Gibraltar
Spain will probably be even more difficult.
Roger claims that Michelle Barnier wants NI to be aligned with EU
However there is no support for his claim in the quotes provided.
It is clearly not a case of 'want', but a case of need. That is what TM agreed to as a backstop in December in order to progress to the next stage.
Now the responsibility is for UK to come up with a credible solution to avoid the fall back to the backstop position
So far, only a wish list from TM. But she has a very high wire act to attempt between DUP, Ireland, Remainers, Brexiteer and EU, and of course the fickle UK MPs. Equivalent to, perhaps, a trapeze multiple somersault, landing on a tightrope (supported by sky hooks), while throwing knives at a revolving target, and telling jokes at the same time.
And she volounteered for the job.
It will be now subject to negotiation, but we have already seen Ireland doubt the suggested proposal.
Then there is Gibraltar
Spain will probably be even more difficult.
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Thats right JohnD cant answer his own question.
So:
Do you want free movement?
Or do you want control?
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No passporting rights for the City. You may not be fans of London Finance but this is not going to go down well at all.
Barnier actually said that if the UK is determined to leave the single market and the customs union, Border Controls would be unavoidable
(which we all know)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43001845
The Quitters said that they don't want a border controls between NI and the republic or Ireland.
Barnier said that can only be achieved if NI is aligned to EU rules.
As I've said before.
Pick one
(only one)
It's for the UK to decide.
Theresa's government has been unable to decide.
Notch can't decide either.
Can any of the quitters decide which of the available options they want?
No, they can't.
(which we all know)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43001845
The Quitters said that they don't want a border controls between NI and the republic or Ireland.
Barnier said that can only be achieved if NI is aligned to EU rules.
As I've said before.
Pick one
(only one)
It's for the UK to decide.
Theresa's government has been unable to decide.
Notch can't decide either.
Can any of the quitters decide which of the available options they want?
No, they can't.
Barnier even said that discussions must progress on the three available options.
""Based on discussions this week, the UK has accepted the necessity of discussing how to make this full alignment scenario operational, provided we discuss the other two options in parallel. This is what we will work on in the coming rounds.""
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-02-09/irish-border-checks-unavoidable-post-brexit-barnier-warns/
"
"It is important to tell the truth," he said.
"A UK decision to leave the single market and to leave the customs union would make border checks unavoidable."
In the UK-EU joint report of December, it was agreed that, in the absence of an alternative arrangement, Northern Ireland would retain full regulatory alignment with the EU.
In order to maintain an open border in Ireland, Mr Barnier said it was now necessary to "start legally defining how this scenario would work in operational terms".
"There must be no ambiguity there," he said."
The Quitters are pretending that he is insisting on one of the options. This is a lie.
The Quitters are evidently trying to stir up hatred by publishing false claims. It is widely thought that this is so that when Brexile is a disaster, they can try to pretend it's not their fault.
It is.
"Mr Barnier also defended himself against claims by Brexit Secretary David Davis that the EU had been "discourteous" over the transition period in its draft legal text.
"Since the very beginning, quite naturally, I have been objective," Mr Barnier said.
"I have never been aggressive, I am not vindictive, I am not trying to punish anyone.
"I very much regretted the British vote on Brexit, like others, but we respect that vote.""
""Based on discussions this week, the UK has accepted the necessity of discussing how to make this full alignment scenario operational, provided we discuss the other two options in parallel. This is what we will work on in the coming rounds.""
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-02-09/irish-border-checks-unavoidable-post-brexit-barnier-warns/
"
"It is important to tell the truth," he said.
"A UK decision to leave the single market and to leave the customs union would make border checks unavoidable."
In the UK-EU joint report of December, it was agreed that, in the absence of an alternative arrangement, Northern Ireland would retain full regulatory alignment with the EU.
In order to maintain an open border in Ireland, Mr Barnier said it was now necessary to "start legally defining how this scenario would work in operational terms".
"There must be no ambiguity there," he said."
The Quitters are pretending that he is insisting on one of the options. This is a lie.
The Quitters are evidently trying to stir up hatred by publishing false claims. It is widely thought that this is so that when Brexile is a disaster, they can try to pretend it's not their fault.
It is.
"Mr Barnier also defended himself against claims by Brexit Secretary David Davis that the EU had been "discourteous" over the transition period in its draft legal text.
"Since the very beginning, quite naturally, I have been objective," Mr Barnier said.
"I have never been aggressive, I am not vindictive, I am not trying to punish anyone.
"I very much regretted the British vote on Brexit, like others, but we respect that vote.""
Gone are the days when someone could justify that the Tories are concerned only with the interests of Bankers, yup.
Nozzle
LoL.
Pool ole jdumb blames the "quitters" for something that has not even happened.
Presumably he means the 17,410,742 voters who voted leave. For which he has absolutely no respect for.
