I just use a sharpie and do a lil PL and SL 
Brown sleeves on switched live cable (lighting)
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Fine for those with good eyesight, I suppose!I just use a sharpie and do a lil PL and SL
Kind Regards, John
Fair enough. If one has twin red or brown, it doesn't really matter what colour one uses - but, since we're used to seeing the S/L sleeved (when cable is standard T&E), I think it best to sleeve (or tape) the S/L (i.e. IMO, probably best not to use the EFLI method).
Of course, it's normally going to be ordinary T&E, so we're then stuck with brown (or red) sleeving.
Kind Regards, John
Actually, here it is ALWAYS used. In fact it would probably be considered bad practice to use brown/blue even if it was sleeved. Also, twin brown often has different shades of brown to aid identification.
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Would that not in fact indicate that it was L2 of a three-phase circuit in an installation in pre-harmonised colours?
Fine for those with good eyesight, I suppose!I just use a sharpie and do a lil PL and SL
You'd be surprised. Needs to be a crisp new(ish) sharpie and not a blunt old one but it's pretty easy to read, particularly on twin red
Interesting. Although my experience is necessarily very limited, I have only very rarely come across twin brown (or twin red).
That's clever. I've never seen (or noticed that I've seen!) that - although I suppose it's of pretty limited usefulness in the absence of a convention which defines which shade means what! I'd therefore probably still oversleeve the S/L with more brown
Kind Regards, John
Right, in future
I shall sleeve the PL so that I know,
sleeve the SL so that John knows,
tape SL with yellow so that Owain knows and
write on it so that Iggifer knows.
If anyone seeing it is still confused they can read the writing.
It would seem Iggifer's is the only fool-proof method if you can see it.
What about a 'flag' of insulating tape with BIG writing?
I shall sleeve the PL so that I know,
sleeve the SL so that John knows,
tape SL with yellow so that Owain knows and
write on it so that Iggifer knows.
If anyone seeing it is still confused they can read the writing.
It would seem Iggifer's is the only fool-proof method if you can see it.
What about a 'flag' of insulating tape with BIG writing?
It might do, but it's a single phase installation.
I do need to tidy it up, I have old T&E, new T&E, old 3+E and new 3+e all coming together at various points. 3+e may be 2-way switching, L+SL+N, or smoke detector interlink.
... or do as most people seem to do (i.e. nothing). Apart from brown-sleeved-brown or red-sleeved-red (for S/Ls) which I have installed myself, I don't think I've ever seen a twin brown or twin red with any sort of functional identification!
Kind Regards, John
I think that's fairly typical. Just pop a sticker on the CU and don't worry about it. It's not worth replacing cables purely based on their colour, and oversleeving only does so much
Why don't we all start a trend and just do smiley faces to mark S/L
Who would actually include in their quote "sleeve non brown lives". And sockets? Odd.
Twin brown I have seen has one core brown right through, the other a greyish white, with a brown top coat.
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