Bus driver sacked OMG

[Highway Man]

The Legal Position (Criminal Law Act 1967)

• Reasonable Force Only: Section 3(1) states: "A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders...".
• Proportionality is Key: The force used must match the threat. If a suspect is running away, they are generally not an immediate threat to you or others. Chasing them with a weapon implies a desire to harm or punish (revenge), rather than to stop a crime.
• Grossly Disproportionate Force: If you chase a suspect and use a weapon—especially if you cause serious injury—it will almost certainly be considered "grossly disproportionate," and you may face criminal charges, including wounding or assault, regardless of the fact that they stole from you.

I would stick to painting window sills or cleaning ovens if I were you.

 

[motorbiking]

The Legal Position (Criminal Law Act 1967)

• Reasonable Force Only: Section 3(1) states: "A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders...".
• Proportionality is Key: The force used must match the threat. If a suspect is running away, they are generally not an immediate threat to you or others. Chasing them with a weapon implies a desire to harm or punish (revenge), rather than to stop a crime.
• Grossly Disproportionate Force: If you chase a suspect and use a weapon—especially if you cause serious injury—it will almost certainly be considered "grossly disproportionate," and you may face criminal charges, including wounding or assault, regardless of the fact that they stole from you.

Have you had enough yet?

Not going to post your source. Don’t be shy.

 

[noseall]

I would stick to painting window sills or cleaning ovens if I were you.

You have quoted me by mistake. You need to find the chicken boy with a big red self-inflicted hand-print across his forehead.

 

[Elsa TLC]

You can show posts here where people have taken "the criminal's side" can you?

No - of course you can't.

Every word you say.

 

[motorbiking]

Back to the original discussion, if they’d sacked him immediately or within 7 days, he would not have been able to bring a claim as he had less than 2 years service.

The bus company sacked him for gross misconduct. That misconduct did not need to be criminal, their reasonable belief that he used excessive force, did not need to meet the criminal standard.

The fact that the police did not charge him criminally, speaks volumes.

 

[Odds]

Every word you say.

every breath you take...

 

[JohnD]

The fact that the police did not charge him criminally, speaks volumes.

Yes, overstretched resources means that the majority of crimes are not prosecuted.

 

[King Billy]

Soooo.....to sum up....

The bus driver is a legend and he 100% did the right thing.

If you consider dereliction of duty as 'the right thing'.

 

[King Billy]

What bus driver?

Exactly, a bus driver no more.

 

[pete01]

If you consider dereliction of duty as 'the right thing'.

Sometimes you've just got to do the right thing

 

[King Billy]

Well if that was my daughter he helped I'd buy him a few pints.

Let's hope he doesn't drive a bus afterwards. titter.

 

[pete01]

Let's hope he doesn't drive a bus afterwards.

He said he wouldn't he works in a bar now

Oh I get ya, replied to the wrong post

 

[Elsa TLC]

every breath you take...

Every bond you break, every step you take

 

[King Billy]

Now you are getting there. Let’s see the case law that backs up the argument. Let’s see you apply an upheld conviction for excessive force in the apprehension of a criminal to mottie’s situation.

I’ll wait..

I have asked multiple times for you to present the relevant section of the law that you refer to, yet still you resist. There can be only one explanation.
How about presenting some case law, to which you have now switched, that supports your interpretation of the relevant law.

 

[King Billy]

How are you getting on with the case law?

Which ones?
Especially the ones that contradict the relevant sections of the legislation that you refuse to present.