Cable management in an airing cupboard

[DursleyDonkey]

Is this considered acceptable, or should the flexes be under a cable clamp? It's in the airing cupboard, so the devices they're attached to don't move, and there would be no reason to touch them - except by accident.
(Posting here and in the heating and plumbing group to see if electricians and heating engineers agree with each other.)

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• DursleyDonkey
• 31 Mar 2018

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• 31 Mar 2018

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• 31 Mar 2018

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[JohnW2]

Is this considered acceptable, or should the flexes be under a cable clamp? It's in the airing cupboard, so the devices they're attached to don't move, and there would be no reason to touch them - except by accident.

As far as regulations are concerned, no (as I think you realise) it is not 'acceptable'.

Firstly, as you say, there should be some sort of 'cable restraint' (e.g. cable clips etc.) to prevent any of the wires being yanked out (no matter how unlikely you think it is that such would happen). Secondly, the insulation of the 'inner cores' of cables should not be present/visible outside of the box - i.e. the outer sheath, before the part which is stripped, should enter the box (and be kept in that position by the cable clips or whatever).

Kind Regards, John

 

[flameport]

As above, and whoever installed that would have done far better to buy one of the many junction boxes designed for the purpose - which are supplied with numbered terminals, cable clamps and labels to identify the cables.

 

[Taylortwocities]

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• Taylortwocities
• 16 Jul 2016

What he said

 

[SUNRAY]

As above, and whoever installed that would have done far better to buy one of the many junction boxes designed for the purpose - which are supplied with numbered terminals, cable clamps and labels to identify the cables.


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But sadly I find that many heating 'engineers' still fit the cheapest option which does not have such clamps or else omit to use the clamps.

 

[JohnW2]

But sadly I find that many heating 'engineers' still fit the cheapest option which does not have such clamps or else omit to use the clamps.

C'mon, be fair - they did use one of the clamps

Kind Regards, John

 

[davelx]

C'mon, be fair - they did use one of the clamps

Kind Regards, John

And 2 cable clips!!!

 

[JohnW2]

And 2 cable clips!!!

True, but I'm afraid that neither of them would stop me being able to yank the cable out of the terminals!

Kind Regards, John

 

[SUNRAY]

C'mon, be fair - they did use one of the clamps

Kind Regards, John

Ah ah, no they didn't, the cables passed over the top clamp. All of the others were missing, the bottom entry had been chopped out to make more space for the number of cables that entered there (more than remaining as a zone had just been removed). I guess the clips had also been removed for more space.

 

[JohnW2]

Ah ah, no they didn't, the cables passed over the top clamp.

Oh - did you 'mend' that, then?

Kind Regards, John

 

[Jackrae]

Don't overlook the crappy 'grommet' made from a piece of T&E outer casing leaving single insulated cores exposed

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Also, this is an interesting way to earth the back box:

I wonder how well it works?

 

[SUNRAY]

Oh - did you 'mend' that, then?

Kind Regards, John

Erm... yes. And crafted a clamp for the bottom cables after removing the superfluous cables.

 

[SUNRAY]

Don't overlook the crappy 'grommet' made from a piece of T&E outer casing leaving single insulated cores exposed

That's gone as well as the FCU's were moved to a more accessible location.