Can someone explain this spaghetti to me?

[Magkakahalo]

Hey there,

I'm trying to install new lights which only needs 3 wires to connect to it, but this is what my current ceiling rose looks like and I cannot make sense of it let alone eliminating the wires I don't need to hook up to my new ceiling light.

http://i.imgur.com/dbPL3.jpg

I asked my Dad and he told me that there may be feed from the mains, switch and branch off for another light, which the room has.

Many thanks.

 

[Diyisfun]

The brown & blue that are in the white sleeving, they are the wires to your new light. I assume the 3rd wire you have is the earth so connect that to the other earth. You dont need to do anything with the other wires.
I am not an electrician

 

[Magkakahalo]

Thanks for the reply.

The main issue I am having is that I need to remove that ceiling rose to put the new one on. I am just confused as to what to do with all hose wires as a result of removing the rose.

Thanks.

 

[JohnD]

why do you think you have to take the rose off?

does your new lamp have an equivalent rose?

there are no wires that you "do not need"

if you disconnect any of those wires, or connect them in a different way, other lights in your home will stop working, and you may repeatedly trip your circuit breaker.

Taking apart or wrongly connecting will cause you a great deal of extra work and expense.

 

[Johnmelad]

Isolate at consumer unit, test at light fitting.

Disconnect old lamp holder, disconect new lampholder from new rose, connect new lampholder to old rose screw new rose cover on and Bob's your uncle.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I am just confused as to what to do with all hose wires as a result of removing the rose.

http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting

 

[Johnmelad]

Could you please stop posting that oversize picture, it serves no purpose and is very annoying.

You post that silly picture so often it is starting to look like you are spamming the site.

 

[Taylortwocities]

I have sympathy with BAS.

The answer to the OP's question (like, many, many questions) is already answered in teh WIKI.

The WIKI has been compiled by contiributors to this forum so that the often asked questions do not need to have a topic of their own.

All the questioner needs to do is access the DIYNOT UK Electrics front page and read the notice that BAS has highlighted.He/she then goes to look at the section on lighting and he/she then already has the answer.

This eliminates us having to answer the same question over and over and over again.

 

[sparkwright]

Although if I send a post I prefer a personally written reply, it makes perfect sense to direct people to the appropriate wiki or link.

Since not all forums on DIYnot have prepared wikis, nor is the wiki thread particularly clear as it doesn't stand out enough, there is no harm to direct people to it.

Weather the wiki will actually answer their question is another matter.

 

[JohnW2]

I have sympathy with BAS. ... This eliminates us having to answer the same question over and over and over again.

I agree - but I do wish that BAS would do the same with some of his other 'boilerplate responses' - many of which are quite lengthy, and are seen on a weekly, if not daily, basis. It's very tedious seeing the same material in posts time after time again! ... why can't he put them in the Wiki, or use some other method whereby the length repetitions can be reduced to links? ... and a particular annoyance of his 'massive image/font' posts is they make the posts all wider than the screen for the whole 'page' - so affecting a lot of posts other than his own.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I agree - but I do wish that BAS would do the same with some of his other 'boilerplate responses' - many of which are quite lengthy, and are seen on a weekly, if not daily, basis.

Indeed - I should do that.

and a particular annoyance of his 'massive image/font' posts is they make the posts all wider than the screen for the whole 'page' - so affecting a lot of posts other than his own.

That screenshot is only 1024 x 278...

 

[ban-all-sheds]

... nor is the wiki thread particularly clear as it doesn't stand out enough ...

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=215226&start=0

 

[JohnW2]

I agree - but I do wish that BAS would do the same with some of his other 'boilerplate responses' - many of which are quite lengthy, and are seen on a weekly, if not daily, basis.

Indeed - I should do that.

It would be appreciated, probably not only by me. Thanks.

and a particular annoyance of his 'massive image/font' posts is they make the posts all wider than the screen for the whole 'page' - so affecting a lot of posts other than his own.

That screenshot is only 1024 x 278...

Well, whatever its width, the effect of that post has been to make the whole page of messages widen to about 1.25 times the width of my (1280 x 800) screen - which is a pain! Your 'macro-font' messages often have the same effect. ... and, given all that, you should perhaps consider yorself lucky that I bothered to scroll across to find the 'Thanks' button

Kind Regards, John

 

[333rocky333]

they make the posts all wider than the screen for the whole 'page' - so affecting a lot of posts other than his own.

Not sure whos caused it this time, but i hate that too

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Well, whatever its width, the effect of that post has been to make the whole page of messages widen to about 1.25 times the width of my (1280 x 800) screen

Ah - I'm running at 1920 x 1200, and a browser window 1460 wide does not scroll horizontally.....