Ceiling Rose Wiring Wrong?

[SUNRAY]

The practice of installing lighting circuits without CPC went on for as long as twin cable was available and for a DIYer with a 100m roll it could last forever.
Even more recently it's not uncommon to find T&E used with the 'E' cut short. Example: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/loop-ceiling-lights-is-this-correct.648022/
As it happens we had some 7strand 2.5mm² twin made (for loudspeaker use) around 1995 and as we were happy to accept any colours for the conductors and a reduced sheath thickness (To 1.5mm² dimensions) it was a real bargain with some very prominant use of purple.

 

[SUNRAY]

Seeing I was born in 1955 then from my perspective it is relatively new-ish, it didn’t all get implemented until a fair number of years had past . Ok we had paper and pen (ink bottle and dropper prior platinum pens) and RCDs were quite voluntary for many years (and expensive) , it all has a bearing on our viewpoint of new, old etc etc.
Mental arithmetic ruled supreme and log books and slide rules were things of desire. Calculators not invented.

I showed my grandson my sliderule (£3 3s C 1967ish) recently. Also my 4 figure log bok and made him use it for some calculations to assist his understanding of some homework.

 

[blup]

It’s the copper wire that conducts not the colour of its insulation

 

[SUNRAY]

It’s the copper wire that conducts not the colour of its insulation

Indeed and buying 10Km at a time and in longer lengths we were were very happy to be buying it cheaper than T&E on 100m or 200m drums

 

[morqthana]

Calculators not invented.

When you were 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumlock_ANITA_calculator

 

[ebee]

When you were 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumlock_ANITA_calculator

Sorry I “misspoke” that one (Hilary Clinton might o
Have been using the term misspoke though! ) .

I actually meant when calculators became common for ordinary folk like me, mid seventies I go some Sinclair cambridge ready built ones at similar to kit price for me and my workmates and so I see that as the start of it, still expensive at the time but it was the order of the day . Calculators did not start off as the £5 or £1 models we see these days and a Thornton Slide rule was still a prized possession LOL.

Similarly later on the first mobile phones commonly available and smaller than a house brick or a small suitcase and you could not only speak but also text too, wow , modern tech back then, they were the order of the day back then in their time, I’ll not mention the advent of such mobile phones then getting an onboard camera eventually.
Yes I’m a Dinosaur but the 60s 70s and beyond are not that long ago to me.

Anyway I think you knew what I meant really!

 

[bernardgreen]

Yes I’m a Dinosaur but the 60s 70s and beyond are not that long ago to me.

Same for me, they were ( in terms of techology ) the best of times

 

[ebee]

Eeh we remember Glam Rock being new - what were “automatic shoes” that Marc Bolan used to sing about?

 

[morqthana]

Anyway I think you knew what I meant really!

I did, but it's interesting to see how long it was before some things entered the mainstream.

The first portable hand-held cellphone, the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X was $3,995 in 1984 - the equivalent of $12-14,000 today.

 

[SUNRAY]

I did, but it's interesting to see how long it was before some things entered the mainstream.

The first portable hand-held cellphone, the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X was $3,995 in 1984 - the equivalent of $12-14,000 today.

Realistically not a viable product though needing a long charge and only half a day of standby time or half hour of talk time. We, as a nation, commonly used 'Carphone' rather than the USAs 'Cellphone' , hence 'Carphone whorehouse' being an early independant outlet.

 

[morqthana]

Once it became untethered from the car, didn't we say "mobile phone"? I can't remember?

'Carphone whorehouse'

Deliberate witticism?

Unfortunate typo?

Your predictive text having learned what you often write?

 

[SUNRAY]

Once it became untethered from the car, didn't we say "mobile phone"? I can't remember?




Deliberate witticism?

Unfortunate typo?

Your predictive text having learned what you often write?

Yes and oops

 

[morqthana]

Who remembers all that faff of fixing cradles to the dash, an aerial glued to the winsdcreen, a speaker hidden somewhere, a microphone ditto but where it would pick up your voice, a connection to the stereo to mute it...

 

[morqthana]

a Thornton Slide rule was still a prized possession LOL.

Can't remember what mine was. Don't think it was a Thornton.

I did look here https://sliderulemuseum.org/SRM_BrandIndex.shtml to see if anything rang a bell, but no.

I do remember that at some time after I no longer needed a slide rule it got left on a sunny windowsill and warped.

A warped slide rule doesn't work very well, so it got tossed.

 

[morqthana]

And who remembers kids coming in to school with things which had reached the commercial market, but not consumer, which they'd borrowed from (usually) Dad?

I remember seeing my first pocket calculator that way.

And either Magic Markers or fluourescent highlighters.