Double up terminations inq plug??

[SUNRAY]

Good quality plug tops such as the MK 646 has captive pins which is why they are my plug of choice.
Opt for the cheap Chinese crap and you get what you pay for, crap!

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Wiring_Accessories_Menu_Index/Plugs_Tops/index.html?

So in your preferred plug the pins move then. Yes?

 

[Sureitsoff?]

Good quality plug tops such as the MK 646 has captive pins which is why they are my plug of choice.
Opt for the cheap Chinese crap and you get what you pay for, crap!

13 Amp Plugs & Fuses Tops

www.tlc-direct.co.uk

no wonder cheap plugs get used when the very good MK ones are nearly ten times the price..

I too also use MK 646 or the heavier duty style whenever possible.

 

[morqthana]

Have you ever used a plug where the pins don't move?

I've used ones where they are pretty damned tight and don't wobble.

 

[SUNRAY]

I hope you sent them back and complained they don't comform to BS1363

 

[morqthana]

Are they supposed to be loose & wobbly then?

Are MK falsely claiming compliance in the case of their 646?

 

[sparkwright]

Hey guys

Should you double up a stranded cable inside a plug when terminating then ?

Using a 1.5mm heavy duty orange rubber flexible cable. And a heavy duty masterplug.

Thanks

If you can double over, and there's room in the terminal, do it.

 

[SUNRAY]

Are they supposed to be loose & wobbly then?

I haven't read the spec for maybe ½Century when I applied for and obtained the license to use non fused BS1363 plugs but yes there is supposed to be some flexibility

Are MK falsely claiming compliance in the case of their 646?

I don't know but FWIW my quick check of 4 646s and 2 655s, all 18 pins move.

 

[morqthana]

So you're saying that it's not that the standard permits a certain amount of flexibility, but that it actually mandates it?

Remember that this all started here

If the cable grip has been securely tightened, the cable inside the plug top should not be able to move and break; if it does, then IMO the plug has been poorly fitted.

Correct...

BUT how do you stop the pins moving?

Are you really saying that the standard not only permits but actually requires pins to move so much that even when the cable grip has been securely tightened, the cable inside the plug top can move and break because of the required movement in the pins, and that this degree of movement is your experience of those MK plugs?

 

[SUNRAY]

So you're saying that it's not that the standard permits a certain amount of flexibility, but that it actually mandates it?

Remember that this all started here




Are you really saying that the standard not only permits but actually requires pins to move so much that even when the cable grip has been securely tightened, the cable inside the plug top can move and break because of the required movement in the pins, and that this degree of movement is your experience of those MK plugs?

That's not quite the way I said it, but I've certainly encounted failed terminations within plugs. In reality I've had more problems with fuses where the movement prevents adequate connexion leading to failure.