Expanded ULEZ

[JohnD]

Did you complain to Boris?

 

[IT Minion]

SECAMBs covers a huge range that isn't London.

You assign the non compliant ones to the coasts and replace as they age out. They last 7 years on average, so we'd be looking at 50% by the end of their exemption even without any deliberate activity. It's a nonsense headline.

 

[motorbiking]

TfL and Khan to get a slap from the ASA for fibbing in adverts about the benefit of ULEZ.

Sadiq Khan 'misled public' about Ulez benefits

Draft report reveals advertising watchdog is set to criticise TfL for 'misleading' claims about extent Ulez expansion reduced pollution

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

Magistrate clearly empathised.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023-12-13/first-ulez-vandal-sentenced-after-painting-camera-using-wasp-spray-can

The only prosecution so far..

 

[IT Minion]

Give it time.

Bomb attack on Ulez camera ‘grotesquely irresponsible’, says London mayor

Blast in Sidcup not being treated as terrorism but counter-terror officers are leading investigation

www.theguardian.com

 

[motorbiking]

Yes it was a bit stupid to do that.

Cutting it down was surely sufficient.

 

[IT Minion]

I'm bloody psychic I am

Two men have been arrested by counter-terrorism police after the explosion of an ultra-low emission zone (Ulez) camera which damaged nearby vehicles and property in south-east London.

Counter-terrorism arrests after Ulez camera blown up in London

Men, 60 and 61, are detained and addresses searched following explosion in Sidcup on 6 December

www.theguardian.com

 

[JohnD]

I wonder if George Smith

(Who likes to be called Iain Duncan Smith)

Was one of them.

I think he's about 70.

 

[motorbiking]

I'm bloody psychic I am

Counter-terrorism arrests after Ulez camera blown up in London

Men, 60 and 61, are detained and addresses searched following explosion in Sidcup on 6 December

www.theguardian.com

If people start blowing things up, it will get attention. I recall when speed cameras were being blown up, it was down to some group of railway engineers who had access to thermite. Fairly traceable.

 

[denso13]

If people start blowing things up, it will get attention.

Yea, better with low level criminal damage that no one notices.

 

[IT Minion]

I do question the actual values of the damage they're doing. Replacing one of them can't be cheap and there's a £5,000 threshold for some criminal damage categories. Although I don't remember the details

 

[johnny2007]

2 over 60 with no previou convictions making bombs to undermine the emperor's tax.
People are getting ****sed off.

 

[motorbiking]

The avg cost to repair one is around £13k, based on the £10M claimed divided by the number destroyed/repaired according to "July's Ulez map" They apparently cost around double. Seems a bit expensive given the technology involved.

Damage over 5k is either way offence, which is probably in the accused interests as they can opt for trial by jury. Under 5k and its magistrates rubber stamping conviction machine.

As a reminder they have been charged with conspiracy - not red handed as such.

 

[IT Minion]

I doubt a jury trial would end well for people setting off IEDs in the streets.

 

[motorbiking]

agreed - but it depends what they were using to make their bombs. Modified fireworks or fertiliser, etc would be my guess. Hard to prove conspiracy without first proving the link. I suspect counter terrorism plod have infiltrated them.