F.A.O. BAS & TTC.

[conny]

You two gents are usually very helpful, though at times critical, to other posters and for this most of us thank you.

However, there are times when you can both criticize a poster unjustly in my opinion. I am not speaking for anyone else but my self when I say you have both had a go at me for stating something which I was under the impression of but also declaring that I was not qualified to substantiate that statement and may be wrong.

If everyone on here was perfectly correct then each request for help would only need one reply. The idea of these forums is to help others by putting forth your opinion/knowledge and experience but also to learn from them. I admitted in the very first post that I was not qualified, that I may be wrong and that if I was then someone would say so. What I object to is the manner in which it was pointed out. If I am wrong about something then I am the first to admit it and will apologise. What I don't do is live under the impression that everything I say is the rule and others are lesser beings for saying something different.

When someone says they may be wrong at least have the decency to respect their admissions.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I am not speaking for anyone else but my self when I say you have both had a go at me for stating something which I was under the impression of but also declaring that I was not qualified to substantiate that statement and may be wrong.

Where did I do that?

 

[GaryMo]

Is public whinging the best way forward?

If I created a topic everytime I had a run-in with BAS then I probably wouldn't be far off his post count.

It's best all round to take it on the chin and get on with it. After all, I'm pretty sure that most of the comments posted here wouldn't be raised in person.

 

[conny]

I am not speaking for anyone else but my self when I say you have both had a go at me for stating something which I was under the impression of but also declaring that I was not qualified to substantiate that statement and may be wrong.

Where did I do that?

When you get people saying that RCD incomers are usually 100mA,

To quote my rely,

I'm not an electrician so could be wrong but I was under the impression

If you are going to repeat what someone has said then quote them completely and keep it in context.
As I said, you give very good advice and can be most helpful but at times you can also be a bit 'offhand' shall we say.

GM,
the reason for this post is purely to avoid 'hijacking' someone elses genuine request for help.

Now as far as I am concerned this matter is concluded.
Oh and by the way, I can take things 'on the chin' but it gets my goat when someone is open and honest but gets slammed for it.

End of.

 

[Johnmelad502]

You two gents are usually very helpful, though at times critical, to other posters and for this most of us thank you.

However, there are times when you can both criticize a poster unjustly in my opinion. I am not speaking for anyone else but my self when I say you have both had a go at me for stating something which I was under the impression of but also declaring that I was not qualified to substantiate that statement and may be wrong.

If everyone on here was perfectly correct then each request for help would only need one reply. The idea of these forums is to help others by putting forth your opinion/knowledge and experience but also to learn from them. I admitted in the very first post that I was not qualified, that I may be wrong and that if I was then someone would say so. What I object to is the manner in which it was pointed out. If I am wrong about something then I am the first to admit it and will apologise. What I don't do is live under the impression that everything I say is the rule and others are lesser beings for saying something different.

When someone says they may be wrong at least have the decency to respect their admissions.

Don't be put off helping with the advice, what you say is often very helpful.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

When you get people saying that RCD incomers are usually 100mA,

That was not directed at you - I'd said nothing to you about your mistake, as that had already been sorted out.

It was an explanation to the OP in that topic of why there were posts there which weren't directly addressing his problem.

To quote my reply, which was a reply to him:

Please recognise that there is more at stake than just your shower problem.

When you get people saying that RCD incomers are usually 100mA, or that RCDs provide overcurrent protection, they have to be corrected -

a) So that anybody reading this thread in the future doesn't read incorrect information

b) So that they don't repeat the incorrect information in the future.

I wasn't having a go at you, just saying why it had been necessary to call your post out as incorrect.

If you are going to repeat what someone has said then quote them completely and keep it in context.

 

[ericmark]

I am qualified and BAS has pointed out to me on more than one occasion where he disagrees with what I have said.

And sometimes he is right. "pobodies nerfect" as doctor Spooner would say.

There are also times when although right one should keep ones mouth shut for example no one should give out engineers codes for house alarms.

There is also nearly an exception to every rule. And many times I have told people about Part P then found they don't live in England or Wales.

I told people you have to use thermostats in immersion heaters that have safety cut outs that are not re-settable. Which I thought was correct. Then it was pointed out with solid fuel boilers these are no good and old type with re-set button still has a use.

The list goes on. So just chill out and accept from time to time you will get it wrong and so will those who try to tell you it's wrong.

These people who think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us that do!

 

[Taylortwocities]

Just been allowed to get the PC back on (Mrs Twocities imposed a PC-free day regime )

I do try to be critical (yes and sarcastic) when posters who should know better say something that is incorrect. The audience here is DIYers and incorrect information can be dangerous.

I am also merciless when a DIYer heads off a dangerous route, or asks a question and doesn't like the answer.

I do not think that is an unreasonable stance.

And hey nobody is 100% perfect, nobody. If I get it wrong I will put my hands up and say so. Certainly I don't lose sleep on it.

Peace, love and understanding.

 

[securespark]

Mrs Twocities imposed a PC-free day regime )

Did you do anything else interesting instead?

 

[conny]

Truce amongst all, agreed?

We are all grown men, (I assume ) and have all had our say so lets put this behind us and get on with life.
After all, its short enough as it is.

Pleasant evening gentlemen.

 

[martinxxxxxx]

The only thing I don't like is when the posts degenerate into calling people Tw@s or Pillocks.

Otherwise I think it is all good - Sarcasm is OK (maybe not great), belittling if justified -as long as the info is correct. What is the problem. People on the recieving end generally are giving it out anyway.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Mrs Twocities imposed a PC-free day regime )

Did you do anything else interesting instead?

Aah sadly not.