Farewell Democracy...

[EddieM]

Its the continual twisted logic of Brexiteers.

They get all upset when there is talk of a European force, but are quite happy for NATO which is bankrolled by the USA for self interest.

In what way, it doesn't pay the majority of funds in?

 

[SirGalahad]

In what way, it doesn't pay the majority of funds in?

So what point do you want to make about NATO?

 

[durhamplumber]

what you write true?

Are you the ultimate conspiracy theorist or what?

 

[durhamplumber]

They get all upset when there is talk of a European force, but are quite happy for NATO which is bankrolled by the USA for self interest

Another rubbish fact

 

[durhamplumber]

They get all upset when there is talk of a European force, but are quite happy for NATO which is bankrolled by the USA for self interest.

Of course,,,it’s EU that we thank for peace,,NATO irrelevant,,in your dreams perhaps

 

[durhamplumber]

Asking the Queen to suspend Parliament to force through Brexit...

Queen will not act.

If she agrees, UK democracy will be well and truly dead!

Remainers wrong again.

 

[EddieM]

So what point do you want to make about NATO?

That there is an off touted myth that the US Pays ~70% for NATO, which it most certainly doesn't.

 

[Brigadier]

If I remember correctly, It was because of the US (Trump and his anti-Europe rhetoric in particular) that the idea of a European protective force was mentioned.

Earlier than Trump.... https://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/14/...ropean-army-capable-of-acting-without-us.html

 

[noseall]

Earlier than Trump.... https://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/14/...ropean-army-capable-of-acting-without-us.html

I can't access that link sorry.

However, it does not detract from the fact that Europe needs protecting from Trump and his Pro-Putin agenda. British citizens have been attacked by Russia on UK soil and Trump turns a blind eye.

Trump = ****.

 

[durhamplumber]

 

[durhamplumber]

Trump = ****.

Top bloke

 

[Brigadier]

I can't access that link sorry.

However, it does not detract from the fact that Europe needs protecting from Trump and his Pro-Putin agenda. British citizens have been attacked by Russia on UK soil and Trump turns a blind eye.

Trump = ****.

"PARIS— Prime Minister Alain Juppé called Wednesday for the creation of a European army of up to 350,000 men capable of acting independently of Washington in a crisis but integrated within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization."

March 1996.

 

[noseall]

"PARIS— Prime Minister Alain Juppé called Wednesday for the creation of a European army of up to 350,000 men capable of acting independently of Washington in a crisis but integrated within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization."

March 1996.

Wise man. Good foresight. And he probably had never even heard of the idiot Trump.

 

[JohnD]

Brig finds a press report 23 years old.

Shock news!

 

[Vinty]

As to NATO, Trump wants to destroy that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nato...a-nyonoksa-blast-because-trump-sources-2019-8

However, NATO has felt incapable of taking a hard line with President Vladimir Putin over his weapons program in part because of US President Donald Trump's troublingly friendly approach to Russia, three NATO officials told Insider.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/nato-president-trump.html

WASHINGTON — There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, the military alliance among the United States, Europe and Canada that has deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years.

Last year, President Trump suggested a move tantamount to destroying NATO: the withdrawal of the United States.

Senior administration officials told The New York Times that several times over the course of 2018, Mr. Trump privately said he wanted to withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization

Filly et al must be Russian Bots.

When was the last time Russia plotted to invade the UK.?
Historically the Russians were Britain's allies in both world wars.
The French, Germans, Spanish have all at various points in history tried to destroy Britain yet everyone keeps going on about the Russians.