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Flat or pitched roof for extension?

Discussion in 'Roofing and Guttering' started by kingandy2nd, 22 Jun 2020.

  1. kingandy2nd

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    In days gone by it would always be a pitched roof for longevity, but as I understand it (although I have no first-hand experience) flat roof material has improve substantially in recent times.

    My rear extension will have a roof 5x5m by 3.9m. My designer (long time ago and now long gone) designed it with a 17.5 degree pitched roof, but I can't help but think that a flat roof with a flat roof skylight in it might be a better option if the quality of lifespan of a flatty is now comparable - and easier for me to fit (as I'm DIY).

    I'd welcome people's views on what they'd do if it was their property? Thanks
     
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    there is no issue these days with flat roofs....provided they are installed properly.

    I would recommend EPDM for DIY install. I did a 35 sq metre roof last year on my garden office / cabin -its been great.

    dont try and order the roof in one piece -put in a join -its not a risk of leaking done properly and you wont have a hernia trying to lift a 100kg sheet up in one go!

    you might want to go on a course for training -rubber4roofs do courses and are based in Coventry

    if you are having a flat roof with a skylight -be very careful in working out the falls -its more complex than it looks. With EPDM Id try to get a 1 in 40 fall to avoid ponding at any seams.
     
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    Pitched all day long
     
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    What's your rational?
     
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    It's not rocket science. A good tiled roof will outlast any flat roof. Obviously its more expensive but it will last (If done correctly)
     
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    For a roof you would tend to make a choice based on design aesthetics or technical criteria, not just on lifespan.

    You would struggle to fit a roof lantern to a pitched roof for example.
     
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    want a bet? i have some pictures some where
     
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    I only see the point of skylights in very dark areas, big with standard back door.
    Usually this skylight business in standard extension is only a waste of money and maintenance as they get dirty very quickly.
    That's without counting the fact that in my days I have seen plenty of them leaking as the flushing kit was installed incorrectly.
    Do you really need a skylight?
    If not, pitched roof is the obvious choice as what you save on skylight will go towards the cost of tiles.
     
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    Tiled roof & 3 velux skylights with vaulted ceiling.
     
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    Thanks everyone for your input. Seems like a bit of a mixed view. So hopefully this adds a bit more detail to my situation. Current plans which were drawn up back in 2014 are as follows:

    Screenshot 2020-06-22 at 10.10.26.png

    The designer actually didn't incorporate a change I wanted when the plans were submitted - highlighted in orange as I wanted the steels to be at the 1st floor level (sitting on top of another beam that will open up the existing kitchen).

    I've decided that I would really like a flat roof at the front of the house as there's currently a flat roof there now and other houses with a pitched front roof look a bit off. Basically I'm trying to copy this look, but with a front roof that extends along the blue line:

    Screenshot 2020-06-22 at 22.59.35.png


    However the rear roof is where there's a few options:

    (I don't have a CAD programme, so I doctored the original image using powerpoint - so sorry it's a bit rubbish)

    Screenshot 2020-06-22 at 10.10.33.png

    So the above has one of those flat skylights in it, and allows the kitchen sealing to be one level.

    Screenshot 2020-06-22 at 10.10.43.png

    I suppose with the latter I could lose the badly drawn Velux, but with the bedroom above sticking into the kitchen roof it looks a bit odd.

    I know they all look a bit rubbish in cross sectional view.

    One of my neighbours already has a similar extension with no skylight (nor rear window) and I think it's not the prettiest thing - like a wall of tiles - looks like a steeper pitch than the original design of mine.

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    Thanks everyone for your input.
     
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    the neighbours would have looked nicer if they had stuck with the tiles used on the rest of the building. wesssex rather than renowns
     
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    Wessex? Yuck. Hideous tiles - but essential.
    It would have looked nicer if they had mimicked the pitch of the main roof.

     
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    I hadn’t realised the neighbour had used different tiles?

    @noseall what’s wrong with the Wessex? I was planning on replacing my roof with Wessex as that’s what was there before. Thanks
     
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    And used Wessex Agree not the prettiest but serve their purpose..still better than the renowns
     
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    Wessex won't win any beauty competitions, that's for sure. They aren't the cheapest either nor are they much fun to work with/on. They are designed for low pitch situations so are essential for those roofs with very shallow pitches.
     
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