Has anyone any sympathy?

As I have already stated, these estimates are not the source of information used. There has been a FoI request on the subject and it’s widely reported.

2024. 12,591,780 adults with records. Population of adults in 2024. 42.95 million
Sorry you didn’t know about it.

Not that it’s even relevant to the discussion
The adult population of the UK isn't 42.95 million. Clearly your widely reported FOI request Isnt what you say it is


Because I've found various FOI requests and they agree with the government estimates I linked to, and that you tried to use but made a basic mathematical error.
 
Yeah, different data sets. The FOI doesn't exclude children or people over the age of 65. It just says people.

When you only look at people aged 16-64 you only get around 9.5 million

Even within that FOI a 'criminal component' doesn't mean they actually were convincted or cautioned. So you're still over estimating people with what we'd call a criminal record.
 
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And it’s not even remotely relevant
People make up statistics all the time, I didn't think you were at the level of Spline and his mythical Draconian purges and would pay attention when someone pointed out you were mistaken.

But you've tried to double down insisting you're right while everything you post confirms you're wrong.

See, you've even ignored everything in my post above, again.
 
Everything I posted confirms you don’t have the data, which is why it’s irrelevant. Why do you think it’s relevant to a) this thread or b) a discussion about the %age of people who have been to prison?

I made a point that society has a problem, if more and more people end up having done some prison time. Once you get over a certain portion of the population, you have a problem not with crime, but with law.
 
Why do you think it’s relevant to a) this thread or b) a discussion about the %age of people who have been to prison?

I made a point that society has a problem, if more and more people end up having done some prison time. Once you get over a certain portion of the population, you have a problem not with crime, but with law.
It's relevant if that is or isn't happening.

If you're making up your numbers or unable to do basic maths, which it seems you are, since your own sources disagree with you, then that's absolutely relevant. It means we can't trust your statements.
 
It's relevant if that is or isn't happening.

If you're making up your numbers or unable to do basic maths, which it seems you are, since your own sources disagree with you, then that's absolutely relevant. It means we can't trust your statements.
It means you went down an irrelevant rabbit hole

You’ve made assumptions about crime elements which are incorrect, assumptions about over 65s and under 16s. Your data is based on estimates. It’s pointless
 
If you exclude children who don’t get sent to prison and a sentence rate of 10%, you can validate my claim
No you can't. The UK population is just short of 70 million, less than 12 million are 15 or under. You're still missing more than 13 million people. And people under the age of 16 can also be on the PNC.

70 - 45 - 12 = 13 since you're struggling with the maths.

(Edit: 'm still referring to the PNC data here)
 
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The percentage of the population who have had a prison sentence. Is what you are looking for.
 
The percentage of the population who have had a prison sentence. Is what you are looking for.
Not right now I'm not.

Plus I don't trust your numbers or your methods, you've shown you don't know them that well after all and you ignore anything that disagrees with your conclusion
 
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