High Rise Fire

Status
Not open for further replies.
I'm not disputing that there are bad landlords.

Are you two saying that these landlords have some way of making it compulsory to rent their places?

Kankerot is pushing for greater regulation of the private sector, as if there isn't enough already
 
Kankerot is pushing for greater regulation of the private sector, as if there isn't enough already

You like to run with an idea when you don't full understand it. Carry on. It only shows your lack of understanding.

I take it you are of the red tape brigade. Lets just end regulation.
 
You like to run with an idea when you don't full understand it. Carry on. It only shows your lack of understanding.

I take it you are of the red tape brigade. Lets just end regulation.

What idea am I running with? That's what it looks like from what you've said. Are you now being vague to avoid clarifying your point?
 
What is your point then? Because it sure as hell looks like it from that post and link to The Independant article.

Whenever someone starts moaning about regulation - are you talking in general or specific?

When you say regulations are burdensome - what do you mean. Your returns are being affected?
 
I don't get it. You say regulation is too much, that must mean the return from you renting your properties is not sufficient. Then you can move out from property rental and invest your money where the returns are better.
 
Ah right so you think it's acceptable for the government to push out good landlords because they are not happy with even more regulation, and that because they don't like it they must be a bad landlord? You keep mentioning returns, why is this? Is this what you think it centers around for most landlords? You see you give your real views away by asking the question you didn't even need to make the statement.

And why as a landlord yourself would you be asking for further stealth taxes to be imposed on you? Perhaps you fail to see how ineffective and powerless the LA really are at prosecuting bad landlords but you've been sold on the hype.
 
Ah right so you think it's acceptable for the government to push out good landlords because they are not happy with even more regulation, and that because they don't like it they must be a bad landlord?

So if regulation increases your costs - you have two options - either absorb them or pass them on. So what has it got to do with being good or bad?

You keep mentioning returns, why is this? Is this what you think it centers around for most landlords? You see you give your real views away by asking the question you didn't even need to make the statement.

Tell me what are my real views (you seem to know an awful lot about me).

And why as a landlord yourself would you be asking for further stealth taxes to be imposed on you? Perhaps you fail to see how ineffective and powerless the LA really are at prosecuting bad landlords but you've been sold on the hype.

Are you scaremongering - more stealth taxes. So now you see regulation as stealth taxes. Regulation is important - good regulation helps the market operate effectively.

The problem is most people cannot think on a macro level. Lets say there is no fire safety regulation. So the property next to you has to meet no requirements when it comes to using fire safe materials. This would then increase the chance of a fire. This would then have an impact on your property. Your insurance would go up to compensate or you would not be able to get insurance.

If you have the appropriate regulations then it's a benefit to everyone. Something rabid pro market anti regulation zealots fail to understand.
 
poor old hawker lives in a world of fantasy.

He has constructed the fantasy that he pays National Insurance on his earnings and profits as a landlord (he doesn't)

He has constructed the further fantasy that the tax and NI I have paid since I started working is insufficient to cover the value of the state pension I hope one day to receive, or perhaps he imagines he has somehow caused the growth of the non-state pensions I have invested in.

he is mad.
 
If you have the appropriate regulations then it's a benefit to everyone. Something rabid pro market anti regulation zealots fail to understand.
It is not that sort of regulation which was proposed.

It was to prevent landlords letting property which was not fit for habitation.

Is this really to prevent stupid tenants agreeing to live in such places?



If I have a disgusting flat - cold, riddled with mould and infested with rats with the only access being a small hatch (as one example in the link) do you think I will be able to let it?
If so, to whom?
 
So if regulation increases your costs - you have two options - either absorb them or pass them on. So what has it got to do with being good or bad?



Tell me what are my real views (you seem to know an awful lot about me).



Are you scaremongering - more stealth taxes. So now you see regulation as stealth taxes. Regulation is important - good regulation helps the market operate effectively.

The problem is most people cannot think on a macro level. Lets say there is no fire safety regulation. So the property next to you has to meet no requirements when it comes to using fire safe materials. This would then increase the chance of a fire. This would then have an impact on your property. Your insurance would go up to compensate or you would not be able to get insurance.

If you have the appropriate regulations then it's a benefit to everyone. Something rabid pro market anti regulation zealots fail to understand.

Woah a load of strawman arguments hidden within more strawman arguments, whose got time for that?

Let's focus on the actual point you made.

YOU, think this : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...or-human-habitation-unnecessary-a6696931.html

is a good idea.

I don't.

I think it's total garbage, won't make a blind bit of difference except to extrapolate more money out of an increasingly hated profession of people, MOST of whom are good.

I'm laughing my ass of because the LA are supposed to be the becon of good standards and good practice and if they don't bother looking after their responsibilities you expect private landlords to take on the guilt burden instead? **** that. No dead tenants on my watch.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top