How can you 'fine' a government department?

[ellal]

"Cabinet Office fined £500,000 over New Year honours list data breach"

But who pays the fine?

Oh that's right, the taxpayer!

 

[Mottie]

Comes out of Boris's back pocket.

 

[^woody^]

The illegals are costing over £1.3 billion.

But who pays the bill?

Oh that's right, the tax payer!

 

[noseall]

over £1.3 billion.

Small fry to Tories. They don't even blink wasting tens of billions on useless tec. And as long as they are gifting their chums multi million pound contracts for useless PPE, they will turn a blind eye to other less important issues.

£1.3 billion, lol.

 

[AngleEyes]

The illegals are costing over £1.3 billion.

But who pays the bill?

Oh that's right, the tax payer!

Define an "illegal" in your own words, then we can discuss your figures.

 

[^woody^]

Define an "illegal" in your own words, then we can discuss your figures.

There are many definitions.

But long version
Someone who claims to be fleeing oppression and yet travels through several safe countries, pays thousands to criminals for unlawful assistance into another country, "loses" all their paperwork and then lies about their situation? Rather than do what 1000's of people when they want to legally enter a country for legitimate reasons?

Short version
Channel hoppers

 

[AngleEyes]

There are many definitions.

But long version
Someone who claims to be fleeing oppression and yet travels through several safe countries, pays thousands to criminals for unlawful assistance into another country, "loses" all their paperwork and then lies about their situation? Rather than do what 1000's of people when they want to legally enter a country for legitimate reasons?

Short version
Channel hoppers

They're considered by all legal and rational people and organisations to be perfectly legal asylum seekers, until their application is denied.
Then they are usually left to find and fund their own way home. Very few are repatriated by UK.

Now would you like another stab at defining "illegals", but this time try one that equates with national and international law.
Otherwise your perception is just a bigoted and incorrect definition.

 

[^woody^]

until their application is denied.

And they then blow up hospitals.

What are the laws on seeking asylum again? Are you saying these are all French Nationals trying to get into the nearest safe country?

And why does no reporting refer to them as asylum seekers? Could they be because they are not?

 

[AngleEyes]

And they then blow up hospitals.

He had been languishing in UK for 10 years without any support for a large part of that. He may have suffered from PTSD before his inhumane treatment by UK.
He was known to have suffered mental health issues and the government still removed all support and left him wandering the streets.

What are the laws on seeking asylum again?

Why don't you educate us instead of asking irrelevant and nonsensical questions.

Are you saying these are all French Nationals trying to get into the nearest safe country?

You've resorted to gibberish. The typical refuge of those whose arguments are based on bigotry and nothing else.

And why does no reporting refer to them as asylum seekers? Could they be because they are not?

The typical right-wing media favoured by you probably does not refer to them as asylum seekers. But if you open your eyes to more official reporting media, you'll find that some even discern the differences for you. You ought to read and educate yourself to avoid your bigoted and hateful loaded stereotypical comments.

Asylum seekers and refugees - who's who?
https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/i...zTHJPOJ84KMC65rbWaujYnOgDN--oj8EaAtwNEALw_wcB​

 

[transam]

NHS have a backlog of over 14000

gender reassignment fruit cakes
Seeking treatment

who pays for that

is it the tax payer

 

[noseall]

NHS have a backlog of over 14000

gender reassignment fruit cakes
Seeking treatment

who pays for that

is it the tax payer

That health bill amounts to about one hundredth of a failed government track and trace app.

 

[transam]

That health bill amounts to about one hundredth of a failed government track and trace app.

oh

but the tax payer still
Has to pick up the tab

than there are certain fruit cakes in places like broadmoor at over 200 grand a year per fruitcake

than there is the tax payer money we have had to give to the French scoundrels for supposedly policing Calais

the cost of policing the fruit cakes who glue themselves to the road

 

[noseall]

oh

but the tax payer still
Has to pick up the tab

than there are certain fruit cakes in places like broadmoor at over 200 grand a year per fruitcake

than there is the tax payer money we have had to give to the French scoundrels for supposedly policing Calais

Terrible burden we carry as tax payers. I'm just glad when its not wasted on failed apps or duff PPE equipment....

 

[transam]

Terrible burden we carry as tax payers. I'm just glad when its not wasted on failed apps or duff PPE equipment....

toTrue Noseall

I am with you on this caper the Chinese certainly jumped on the band wagon supplying dodgy PPE

than there is that Johnson wall paper caper

 

[noseall]

the Chinese certainly jumped on the band wagon supplying dodgy PPE

Who would be stupid enough to buy unchecked dodgy Chinese PPE? That would be ridiculous. Even more ridiculous to award that company a government contract.