How much do you trust an indicator?

[carmanmemoranda]

Hilarious. Preserving your tiny bit of knowledge that makes you feel special.

Everyone and his dog knows how a DPF works, and that diesels haven't been recommended for only short journeys for well over a decade.

If you use them as intended they're hassle-free.

And there blows your bs apart by yourself

Ours manages to regenerate by the time I've reached the end of my long rolling driveway through scenic countryside, ready for driving through the streets and houses where the riff-raff live.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

As ever, you make absolutely no sense and provide no information about anything.

Obviously I was joking about the driveway. In reality the chauffeur often needs to slow down when the deer cross the road, which does interfere with the regen process.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

As ever, you make absolutely no sense and provide no information about anything.

Obviously I was joking about the driveway. In reality the chauffeur often needs to slow down when the deer cross the road, which does interfere with the regen process.

I'm happy for you to keep spouting.

 

[ellal]

Most MOT testers are just thugs

As far as I know the 'member' from essex known as mottie was known previously as motman...

Due to him having been, in his words, a 'regular mot tester'...

Do you consider him a thug?

 

[fillyboy]

As far as I know the 'member' from essex known as mottie was known previously as motman...

Due to him having been, in his words, a 'regular mot tester'...

Do you consider him a thug?

He's a very likeable thug.

 

[Highway Man]

As far as I know the 'member' from essex known as mottie was known previously as motman...

Due to him having been, in his words, a 'regular mot tester'...

Do you consider him a thug?

Carwomanmiranda says there arent any

 

[carmanmemoranda]

As far as I know the 'member' from essex known as mottie was known previously as motman...

Due to him having been, in his words, a 'regular mot tester'...

Do you consider him a thug?

Considering the hoops you have to jump into (DBs check included) he is talking out of his ..... hat.

Yes there's a few rogues. Not that many in percentage terms though. But his statement was just a wild comment because he was trying to defend thugs attacking the police

 

[Highway Man]

Considering the hoops you have to jump into (DBs check included) he is talking out of his ..... hat.

Yes there's a few rogues. Not that many in percentage terms though. But his statement was just a wild comment because he was trying to defend thugs attacking the police

Rubbish there are loads of MOT testing thugs who have been convicted, hardly the priesthood is it.

 

[noseall]

. But his statement was just a wild comment because he was trying to defend thugs attacking the police

Predictable, low intelligence trolling.

 

[Highway Man]

Predictable, low intelligence trolling.

Agreed, he should stop it.

 

[Highway Man]

But his statement was just a wild comment because he was trying to defend thugs attacking the police

Why would you think that?

 

[noseall]

Considering the hoops you have to jump into (DBs check included) he is talking out of his ..... hat.

Yes there's a few rogues. Not that many in percentage terms though. But his statement was just a wild comment because he was trying to defend thugs attacking the police

You are being trolled. Ignore.

 

[morqthana]

Rubbish there are loads of MOT testing thugs who have been convicted.

How many, and proof, please.

And it's a shame that I have to say this, but I'm not trolling.

I asked you that not to cause trouble, not to argue for the sake of it, not out of any cynical motives, but because I genuinely, with absolute sincerity, believe that people who make claims of fact must be able to prove them.

 

[Highway Man]

How many, and proof, please.

And it's a shame that I have to say this, but I'm not trolling.

I asked you that not to cause trouble, not to argue for the sake of it, not out of any cynical motives, but because I genuinely, with absolute sincerity, believe that people who make claims of fact must be able to prove them.

I have posted numerous links, just look back on this thread

 

[morqthana]

I have posted numerous links, just look back on this thread

"Numerous".

I have looked back, at all of your posts here, not just ones which might have been found by matching a search term.

There were 4 with links in. I'm not sure that 4 counts as "numerous".


1)

Loads of MOT testers are dodgy (thugs) carmanmeranda insists it is just pettyness and insecurity of people to suggest this

https://mtaeta.info/thread/4689/mot-fraud

2)

There is loads of them, petty you call it?

Car MOT tester issued more than 800 passes without examining vehicles

David Carden admitted multiple fraud

www.bristolpost.co.uk

3)

AI Overview

The term "thug" is a colloquialism, but there are documented cases of MOT testers engaging in serious criminal behaviour, including violence and significant fraud.

Examples of Criminal Conduct

• Violence and Threats: In a specific case, Thomas Moulds, an MOT mechanic, was jailed for threatening to kill a colleague with a blade and using racial abuse at a Hull MOT centre. He was sentenced to two years and seven months in prison for these and other unrelated assault and harassment charges.

4)

@carmanmemoranda what would you call this nice chap?

https://garagewire.co.uk/news/mot-mechanic-jailed-for-threats-and-assault/

But anyway - let's look at each one, bearing in mind that the context is this sequence:

Rubbish there are loads of MOT testing thugs who have been convicted.

How many, and proof, please.

I have posted numerous links, just look back on this thread

i.e. I'm replying to your post in which you claimed you'd posted "numerous links" which show the veracity of your claim that "there are loads of MOT testing thugs who have been convicted".

1) A link to an MOT testers forum with anecdotes about dodgy testers and fraud. Not one mention of thuggery. The closest was an unspecific, unsubstantiated comment "There are some characters of people out there nitros44 that would have you done over or got rid of for being honest" and when you read the whole post that it's in the guy does seem a bit "paranoid" / "conspiracy theorist". People being "got rid of" for reporting dodgy MOTs? Really?

And one "I know some one who ate prison food for 6 months", but no indication that there was any thuggery involved. In fact, the £60,000 fine would tend to suggest the significance of the crime was fraud, not violence.


2) Fraud, fake certificates. No suggestion that he was a thug. In fact, if the report you linked to is accurate, he was a victim of violence, not a perpetrator.


3) & 4) Two links, but to the same case, so really only one example.

At last, a thug. But nothing to show that his thuggery was part of, because of, relating to, him being an MOT tester. He'd have been like this no matter what job he did.

But even if we accept that one tangential example as evidence of "MOT testing thugs", it's just one single solitary person.

One MOT tester out of about 64,000. 0.0016%

Rubbish there are loads of MOT testing thugs who have been convicted.

No - absolutely not proven.

Again, depressing that I feel the need to point this out, but this reply wasn't trolling either. I didn't write it cynically, just to create conflict, or to argue with you for the sake of arguing.

I posted it because you made a claim, I looked into it, I examined the evidence you produced in justification, I found that the evidence utterly lacked merit and thus did not prove that your claim was correct.

Accordingly I am being completely sincere, and genuine, and honest, and not being the slightest disingenuous, when making this reply.

I truly believe that false claims, wherever made, and by whoever, should be challenged and exposed.

Not to sow division. Not to create conflict. Not to argue for the sake of it as some kind of perverse fun.

Not to troll.

But because I believe with all my heart and soul that it is the right thing to do.

People may disagree about that, that's their right, as is expressing that disagreement.

But what they should not do is to impugn my motives just because they disagree.