I think its time to let this young lady ser her sentence back in the UK

[johnny2007]

It's odd how when white schoolgirls get groomed by Muslims you're up in arms, when it's a Muslim schoolgirl then it's her own fault.

Typical terrorist supporter.
I won't waste energy in explaining the difference because everyone here knows and you simply mud waters.
And with that comparison you've lost that little dignity that I thought even the worse humans would retain.
Goodbye.

 

[Highway Man]

Typical terrorist supporter.
I won't waste energy in explaining the difference because everyone here knows and you simply mud waters.
And with that comparison you've lost that little dignity that I thought even the worse humans would retain.
Goodbye.

Not all posts deserve an answer, this IT marrion character has not deserved any answers to his posts from me for ages, he is actually quite sick in my opinion.

 

[IT Minion]

Don't mud waters

Muddying the waters?

This is emblematic of your issues. You don't want to know details, you don't want there to be nuance. You demand simple black and white, good and evil and think anyone who claims there is any shades of grey is an evil communist.

 

[motorbiking]

Whether she was groomed by ISIS is irrelevant. She has been deemed a national security risk and has had her British Citizenship revoked while she had dual Citizenship.

Her father lives in Bangladesh. if he wants her out, he needs to talk to the local authorities.

 

[SPLINE]

Not all posts deserve an answer, this IT marrion character has not deserved any answers to his posts from me for ages, he is actually quite sick in my opinion.

He is possibly the worst contributor to this forum and is, as you rightly say, sick. He is always firmly on the side of muslim aggression and has even posted justifications for the Manchester Arena bombing.

 

[johnny2007]

Muddying the waters?

This is emblematic of your issues. You don't want to know details, you don't want there to be nuance. You demand simple black and white, good and evil and think anyone who claims there is any shades of grey is an evil communist.

And a terrorist supporter like you.

 

[MNW67]

It's odd how when white schoolgirls get groomed by Muslims you're up in arms, when it's a Muslim schoolgirl then it's her own fault.

On the face of it, that is actually a good point which I hadn't considered peviously. It will be interesting to read the counter arguments.

Here is a quick Google for the question "was Shamima Begum groomed"

AI Overview

It is widely accepted among her lawyers, human rights organisations, and a cross-party parliamentary group that
Shamima Begum was a victim of grooming and human trafficking.
Key points regarding the assessment of her being groomed and trafficked:

• Age and Vulnerability Shamima Begum was 15 years old when she and two other school friends left East London to travel to Syria in 2015. Under UK and international law, this age makes her a child, and questions of consent for the purpose of exploitation are irrelevant.
• Expert Opinions UN experts have stated there is "credible suspicion that Ms Begum was recruited, transferred and then harboured for the purpose of sexual exploitation". Her lawyers have consistently argued she was a child victim of online grooming and coercion.
• The Trafficker Evidence has emerged suggesting the man who facilitated her travel from Turkey to Syria was a double agent for the Canadian intelligence services, who passed on her passport details. Her lawyers argue she would never have reached Syria without his help.
• Official Findings vs. Government Stance The Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC) in the UK has accepted there was "credible suspicion" she was a victim of trafficking. However, the Home Secretary's decision to strip her of citizenship on national security grounds was upheld by UK courts, with the judges ruling that the national security risk outweighed other considerations and that she may have still made a "calculated decision" to travel to Syria.

Organisations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have criticised the UK government's position, arguing that her status as a groomed child victim of trafficking should be a primary consideration, and that she should be allowed to return to the UK to face justice.

 

[johnny2007]

The Trafficker Evidence has emerged suggesting the man who facilitated her travel from Turkey to Syria was a double agent for the Canadian intelligence services, who passed on her passport details. Her lawyers argue she would never have reached Syria without his help.

Boll@x!
An intelligence services agent would never facilitate a crime.
They only observe.
She was helped by Isis supporters/members to reach Syria.

she may have still made a "calculated decision" to travel to Syria.

Of course.
She was 15, not 5.
This was not a sneaky trip to Brighton on a sunny day.
This was something that all 15 year old know it's bloody wrong.

Organisations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have criticised the UK government's position, arguing that her status as a groomed child victim of trafficking should be a primary consideration, and that she should be allowed to return to the UK to face justice.

Feck them.
They have friends in leftist governments in other countries, they can have her.

 

[IT Minion]

She has been deemed a national security risk

It's a very low bar. She's no Sir Mark Thatcher.

 

[ellal]

In fact, we didn't commit any crime at 15 because we understood the difference between right and wrong.

Thank you for confirming that at 15 one should understand the difference between right and wrong...

'gas 'em all'/'hitler was right' farage was older...

I assume you will then condemn him and disassociate yourself from his comments?

Farage has not run away from UK and joined a terrorist group as far as I know.

He's just trying to turn the UK into a pariah state!

you're trying to excuse a terrorist.

Show me where I said that...

I guess you missed the bit where I posted that she had 'f*cked up' and be prepared for any sentence

 

[johnny2007]

Thank you for confirming that at 15 one should understand the difference between right and wrong...

'gas 'em all'/'hitler was right' farage was older...

I assume you will then condemn him and disassociate yourself from his comments?

I dissociate myself from his comments.
You can't compare something said to joining a terrorist group against your own country.

He's just trying to turn the UK into a pariah state!

Sure he is.

Show me where I said that...

I guess you missed the bit where I posted that she had 'f*cked up' and be prepared for any sentence

The fact that you compare words with joining a terrorist group and beheading people, shows your will to justify terrorism.
Many people say horrible things against Jews and that must be condemned, but putting a bomb in a synagogue is many, many steps further, it's terrorism.
No leftist will understand this difference.

 

[aveatry]

Thank you for confirming that at 15 one should understand the difference between right and wrong...
'gas 'em all'/'hitler was right' farage was older...
I assume you will then condemn him and disassociate yourself from his comments?
He's just trying to turn the UK into a pariah state!
Show me where I said that...
I guess you missed the bit where I posted that she had 'f*cked up' and be prepared for any sentence

Your hate of farage is bordering needing to be referred to prevent.

 

[ellal]

I dissociate myself from his comments.

Well done...

But will you still vote for him?

You can't compare something said to joining a terrorist group against your own country.

Where do terrorists group grow from if not from rhetoric?

How did the nazi's come to power?

Your ignorance of history is astonishing!

The fact that you compare words with joining a terrorist group and beheading people, shows your will to justify terrorism...

No leftist will understand this difference.

You've become so radicalised that you've disappeared up your own rectal orifice in search of something that doesn't exist

 

[ellal]

Your hate of farage is bordering needing to be referred to prevent.

As usual you've got it arse about face

 

[johnny2007]

Well done...

But will you still vote for him?


Where do terrorists group grow from if not from rhetoric?

How did the nazi's come to power?

Your ignorance of history is astonishing!




You've become so radicalised that you've disappeared up your own rectal orifice in search of something that doesn't exist

Another thicko.
Who told you I vote for farage?
If something said 50 years ago should mark one's life forever, then all politicians, especially the leftists Taliban huggers should be jailed.
And so many of us.
Nazism ended 80 years ago: as all leftists you see Nazism and fascism even in the water you drink.
Tell you who's radicalised: the isis terrorist that you love to see back in our country radicalising other nutters.