Ideal response 120 boilers - ignition problems

[Softus]

Tonnes?

I thought you all worked in Newtons?

You're losing it Agile - the tonne is a unit of mass, whereas the Newton is a unit of force.

 

[Agile]

I thought he was talking about the FORCE exerted sideways onto the wall wasn't he?

 

[fitz1]

too late to ascertain shoulda and coulda now the milks been spilt.talk about how to remove a mass in shortest and cheapest time.

 

[Slugbabydotcom]

Tonnes?

I thought you all worked in Newtons?

Me mam used to work in Newtons years ago. But then she wrapped that job in and got a job on the buses

 

[DP]

Solo, what happens if there is a fire or some other occurance and dogs are called out. How will you explain the external transformer? You are leaving yourself wide open. Do you think you insurance will want to dig you out of the hole?

 

[ChrisR]

I fink he meant an external programmer, D

Yes we are all talking forces. Kgf = kilogrammes force.
I can see that the pressure 1.7 metres deep would be 2.4 x 1.7 tonnes per per square metre.

I inquired a bit. It's obviously a touchy subject up there, with fingers being pointed at everyone. There were to be 2 pours, and the wall went at about 1.2 metres depth, though the hole centred about half that height.

As I say, fingers pointed everywhere - with justification...

The builders' side had the specialist formwork - big aluminium boxes screwed and clamped, and pins into the errant wall to establish the thickness. Lots of those posh aluminium props everywhere.
Both parties had had their surveyors to assess before the work was done - both evidently got it wrong. Judging by the amount of skanky plaster I saw on the flood side, which was still trying to stay attached to the wall, nobody looked very hard. It should have been hacked off, surely.

There was a nervousmaking slab of concrete at least a foot thick, purplish, above. The little orange square is the cross section of the gas pipe, twisted to a pigtail where it was holding the boiler at about 40 degrees on the wrong side of the room.

There were a few acrows up by the time I got there so I waded through half metre deep concrete in rubble sack leggings to get to the gas shutoff, then insisted everyone got out. If the rest of the wall had gone it could have taken the gas pipe, and ripped the meter off the wall. Made me dead popular, concrete going off, occupiers worried about their valuable paintings...

Industrial sized supply and meter so I technically couldn't touch it, so I called Transco/NG. Technically not their problem - no leak so they took 2 hours. Their guy did more than he might - he waded in and disconnected.

 

[Agile]

Yes we are all talking forces. Kgf = kilogrammes force.

Newton:-

The SI unit of force. 1 newton (N) is defined as the force required to give a mass of 1 kg an acceleration of 1 m/s2. It is named after Isaac Newton.

As I said before I thought newtons were normally used for this kind of thing.

Chris does get involved is some pretty dodgey jobe doesn't he!

Tony

 

[ChrisR]

Who says we have to use SI units?

Dodgy job yes, but it's a bit more interesting than thermocouples. Schadenfreude maybe - tough.

No hard work for me really, I turned a few taps, waved a pair of 2ft spanners about, (looked at the nice paintings) and quoted £13,000 for replacement, which is probably being done right now. Already been paid 4 figures and more to come.
Did I want the work? Hint - the cylinder weighs 180kg, empty.

 

[Agile]

Who says we have to use SI units?

Introduction to SI Units:-

This is a brief summary of the SI, the modern metric system of measurement. Long the language universally used in science, the SI has become the dominant language of international commerce and trade. These "essentials" are adapted from NIST Special Publication 811 (SP 811), prepared by B. N. Taylor and entitled Guide for the Use of the International System of Units (SI), and NIST Special Publication 330 (SP 330), edited by B. N. Taylor and entitled The International System of Units (SI). Users requiring more detailed information may access SP 811 and SP 330 online from the Bibliography, or order SP 811 for postal delivery. Information regarding the adoption and maintenance of the SI may be found in the section International aspects of the SI.

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

FFS Agile.

 

[nickso]

Who says we have to use SI units?

Introduction to SI Units:-

This is a brief summary of the SI, the modern metric system of measurement. Long the language universally used in science, the SI has become the dominant language of international commerce and trade. These "essentials" are adapted from NIST Special Publication 811 (SP 811), prepared by B. N. Taylor and entitled Guide for the Use of the International System of Units (SI), and NIST Special Publication 330 (SP 330), edited by B. N. Taylor and entitled The International System of Units (SI). Users requiring more detailed information may access SP 811 and SP 330 online from the Bibliography, or order SP 811 for postal delivery. Information regarding the adoption and maintenance of the SI may be found in the section International aspects of the SI.

still doesnt mean he has to use it

 

[Jackthebiscuit]

A friend has a fault with his Ideal response boiler where the RCD circuit breaker in the switchboard keeps tripping out when the boiler is turned on. Had tech round but he had little idea and said he would return with a mate but he never came back.

Any suggestions, and is this a common problem?

Thanks in advance

 

[Agile]

Its a common problem that people add a posting to something two years old instead of starting their own new topic.

As you are not involved and your mate seems to have it being dealt with then I am left wondering what your purpose is meant to be in saying anything about it.

Its a common problem which any competent boiler engineer will be able to identify and fix.

Tony

 

[gas4you]

I would go for the pressure switch as per usual.

 

[Jackthebiscuit]

Its a common problem that people add a posting to something two years old instead of starting their own new topic.

As you are not involved and your mate seems to have it being dealt with then I am left wondering what your purpose is meant to be in saying anything about it.

Its a common problem which any competent boiler engineer will be able to identify and fix.

Tony

Tony,

A bit grumpy are we today, you sound like Basil Fawlty?

However, wonder no more Basil, I'm helping him because he was let down, he has no computer, and has a disability, so £££'s are tight. Given that the first tecko had spent nearly 2 hours tying to trace the fault, an couldn't find it, I'm now trying to establish if it is normally a tricky problem to diagnose, and should it be expensive to rectify.

To answer your other 'issue', I googled the problem and a link took me to this page, not to the site, but direct to the page. I did noticed the thread was only 3 pages long but not the dates, because dates are not important, but the title of the thread is. Notwithstanding, it is pointless to add yet another thread to an already congested site, when an existing thread will suffice.

It obviously irks you, so take the issue up with google and/or the site administrators,,, not me.

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