Inspection recommends new CU....

I can post the entire pdf if anyone can tell me if anything is actually unsafe (as opposed to desirable to fix)...
 
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Do people normally write reports like that - it sounds like the work of a mindless robot?
I had assumed the writer had just extracted the lines from the report where he thought something is wrong, i.e. all the C1, 2, & 3s.
See pages 400 and 401 in BGB.
 
yes it was just the summary of faults, several of which appear to be labelling issues.
 
1 - 5 Requires a sticky label.
6 - 12 Can't actually tell what is wrong. Only the test headings are shown.
13 - Requires another sticky label.

14 - Is correct. Shower too big or MCB too small.

15 - Self explanatory.
16 - Could be correct depending on the reason for the RCD
17 - Wrong if just because it is old.
 
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yes it was just the summary of faults, several of which appear to be labelling issues.
... but, as I said, in large part it is not a "summary of faults" - for many (most) of the items it is just a statement of a regulation, without any clear indication of what the alleged fault actually was.

As I said, in some cases one can guess - (e.g. the references to required labelling presumably implies that the required labels are not present) - but in a good few cases, one cannot even really guess, except in general terms!

Kind Regards, John
 
1 - 5 Requires a sticky label.
6 - 12 Can't actually tell what is wrong. Only the test headings are shown.
13 - Requires another sticky label.

14 - Is correct. Shower too big or MCB too small.
15 - Self explanatory.
16 - Could be correct depending on the reason for the RCD
17 - Wrong if just because it is old.
Exactly, as I said, 14-17 are clear (even though 17 may, as you say, well be 'wrong') - but items 1-13 are not clear (although one can guess, although one shouldn;t have to, about the labels.

Even if the points it's trying to make are correct, it is an awful report - and I personally would be very reticent to pay for it in that form. I suspect that it is the result of 'point and click' software, used by someone who cannot type!

Kind Regards, John
 
Thank you all for your help. Would the 100mA RCD issue be the main actual safety issue as far as one can tell from what I have posted?
 
Thank you all for your help. Would the 100mA RCD issue be the main actual safety issue as far as one can tell from what I have posted?
Yes, probably - although the problem with the shower circuit might be another, as could be the 'missing fuse carrier' (depending on what that actually means).

Kind Regards, John
 
Would the 100mA RCD issue be the main actual safety issue as far as one can tell from what I have posted?

If it was installed because you have a TT supply (earth rod in the ground), no it is ok.

If it was installed for personal protection, yes.
 
Would the 100mA RCD issue be the main actual safety issue as far as one can tell from what I have posted?
If it was installed because you have a TT supply (earth rod in the ground), no it is ok.
OK for that purpose, but ...
If it was installed for personal protection, yes.
... could it not be argued that the absence of 30mA RCD 'personal protection' for shower and sockets etc. (particularly any sockets which might be used to power outdoor tools) was a 'safety issue'?

Kind Regards, John
 
The quote for the works that the letting agent acquired did of course cover everything on the report (at over 2 grand) which is why I am trying to understand what I actually need to fix (while trying to be fair to my tenants)
 
The quote for the works that the letting agent acquired did of course cover everything on the report (at over 2 grand) which is why I am trying to understand what I actually need to fix (while trying to be fair to my tenants)
Yes, we understand that. Items 14-16 (the only ones {plus 17} for which they've typed, rather than 'pointed and clicked!) probably deserve attention - and it might just be that 17 (replacing the CU) is the simplest/easiest/cheapest way of addressing the RCD issue and maybe other issues.

As has been pointed out, we really don't understand what specific faults they are attempting to identify for items 6-12 inclusive, so you really need to ask for (I would say demand!) clarification/explanation before we could offer any opinions as to whether those things actually 'needed' doing.

Do I take it that you are, directly or indirectly, expected to pay for that report? I would add that I would personally be hesitant to even consider asking the author(s) of that report to undertake any work that actually needs doing!

Kind Regards, John
 
Thanks for the comments, all of you.

I have already paid for it, and I will be going back for clarification.

As for replacing the CU, the company that have quoted for the works say they will have to move the CU location to be away from the gas meter, which is currently right next to the CU, which is presumably why the cost is so high.

Thanks again - if I have subsequent questions I will resurrect this thread.
 
If it was installed for personal protection, yes.
... could it not be argued that the absence of 30mA RCD 'personal protection' for shower and sockets etc. (particularly any sockets which might be used to power outdoor tools) was a 'safety issue'?
Yes, that's what I wrote.

Would the 100mA RCD issue be the main actual safety issue...?
If it was installed for personal protection, yes.
 
If it was installed for personal protection, yes.
... could it not be argued that the absence of 30mA RCD 'personal protection' for shower and sockets etc. (particularly any sockets which might be used to power outdoor tools) was a 'safety issue'?
Yes, that's what I wrote.
Sort-of, but I wanted to be sure that the OP fully understood, since there appeared to be a certain amount of ambiguity, with the talk of 'what it was installed for'.

It quite probably was installed for fault protection in an TT installation (and not for personal protection) - but, regardless of the reason (or not) it was installed, the absence of 30mA RCD 'personal protection', per se, is probably something that most people would (rightly or wrongly) regard as a 'safety issue', particularly in rented accommodation.

Kind Regards, John
 

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