Interesting reason for not using an extension lead with Plug-in Solar

[ericmark]

Marking of the plug for connection with the domestic installation The following information shall be provided on the plug: A warning that plug-in solar devices shall not be connected to extension cable, multi-way adaptor and RCD adaptor

that's a lot to write on a plug. But if an extension cable is used, that would also need to be written on the extensions plug. So far, simpler just to say an extension cable should not be used.

 

[ebee]

"shall not be connected to extension cable, multi-way adaptor and RCD adaptor"
Is the actual wording Eric -
does that infer that whilst it can not be connected to an extension cable then it is not prohibited from using a multiway adaptor or an RCD adaptor but not both an RCD adaptor and multiway adaptor at the same time.

(Using and/or/ex or/nand/nor/ex nor/not type logic )

 

[ericmark]

(Using and/or/ex or/nand/nor/ex nor/not type logic )

You are spot on, your English is better than mine, and it seems it is also better than the law writer. It would need to say "shall not be connected to any of the following, extension cable, multi-way adaptor and RCD adaptor" which has been missed out.

 

[denso13]

 

[denso13]

that's a lot to write on a plug.

Could be on a warning label attached to the cable near the plug.

 

[ericmark]

Could be on a warning label attached to the cable near the plug.

Yes, you realise I am sure I am being pedantic, and I don't believe it's OK to use an extension lead, but if we look at BS7671 how many times have we seen a small change, as someone has decided to bend the rules to suit what they want to do.

I remember being told in a health and safety meeting I was forced to attend, all items must have a PAT test label, and if not, we must stop using the item straight away, no excuses, so I walked to the lead set supplying his computer which was running the PowerPoint presentation, and pointed out the lead had no label, the computer did, but not the lead. So he should turn off the computer now, and having been alerted about the error, should check all other computers in the building.

He did not know what to say, so I continued that I could not PAT test the computer without the lead, so in real terms the lead has been tested, in the same way as a mag mount drill would have one label for drill and mag mount even when technically two items.

So some common sense should be used. And if the 30 people in the class were office workers, and they all returned to their offices and all took 5 lead set each to be PAT tested, it would take all day to test them all with the PAT test machines being used at the time. (Top of range Robin)

As to plug-in solar, we already know you can buy all the bits included in the kit on their own, but rules say, must be sold and installed as a kit, there are many items we could raise to show the law does not seem to make sense, but use a FCU instead of a BS1363 plug and socket, or even use a V2G EV plug and socket, and a different set of rules apply.

 

[ebee]

I wonder if some unscrupulous characters will set up in business to sell "One Way Polarity Extension Leads for Solar Panels Connections" unless some already have done.

New variation on the audio cable sky high charges thingy?.

 

[morqthana]

Yes.

The Electricity Safety, Quality and Continuity Regulations 2002, which says the Interim Product Specification must be complied with.

And said product specification requires plug-in solar devices to have a warning on the plug that it not be connected to extension cable, multiway adaptor or RCD adaptor, and that the instructions shall clearly state that the use of extension cables, multi-way adaptors, RCD adaptors and
travel adaptors are not permitted.

So when Mr Consumer buys a plug-in solar device, and it has those warnings and instructions, he has complied with the ESQCR requirements governing the type of plug-in microgenerator which he is allowed to use.

Which Act or Statutory Instrument makes ignoring the warnings and instructions an offence for which Mr Consumer can be prosecuted?

 

[denso13]

Which Act or Statutory Instrument makes ignoring the warnings and instructions an offence for which Mr Consumer can be prosecuted?

The ESQCR.