Why would winston want an isolator, he doesn't believe in them
Is a cooker isolator required? *POLL*
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Why would he even have an FCU, thought he relied on the internal fuses, I am 99% sure I recall.
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The FCU is to protect the cables. Most cables are big enough not to require it. That is why FCUs are not used in other countries. Internal fuses are to protect the appliance.
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Winston.
Why have you got a FCU for your boiler?????????????
Why on earth have you not removed it and why did you allow it to be fitted in the first place?????
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Yes. Because it is on a 32 amp circuit.
Regs or not, safety and common sense come in to it too.
Oh what a shame that someone as clever as you doesn't have a clue what you're talking about, it's either that or in the last 2 months you've been in the CU and changed the MCB. I do hope you ensured the wiring is adequate for the size of the new OCD and all of the relevant paperwork has been correctly completed.
EDIT: Of course it is possible that Winston simply doesn't know what's in his CU or even if he has a CU, you don't believe in FCU's and perhaps you don't believe in CU's either. afterall the difference is only an 'F'
Of course it could be that your posts are simply lies.
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Should have defined 'required' in the original poll question, then.
My interpretation of 'a safe way of isolation' is most easily provided by fitting an isolating device, such as a socket and plug or a multipole switch.
In the past I've encountered a 'special case' as the regs do 'require' a local isolator for a motor. Bathroom fans are motors, Fan ovens contain a motor as do the washing machine and dishwasher, Rotisories contain a motor, fridges contain a motor, Pond pumps contain a motor, as does the sewing machine, Our ceiling fan is built around a motor, Central heating pumps are motors and of course modern boilers contain motorised fans, Heck even my laptop contains a motor, in fact several...
So in my opinion a FAN oven requires a local isolator.
In the past I've encountered a 'special case' as the regs do 'require' a local isolator for a motor. Bathroom fans are motors, Fan ovens contain a motor as do the washing machine and dishwasher, Rotisories contain a motor, fridges contain a motor, Pond pumps contain a motor, as does the sewing machine, Our ceiling fan is built around a motor, Central heating pumps are motors and of course modern boilers contain motorised fans, Heck even my laptop contains a motor, in fact several...
So in my opinion a FAN oven requires a local isolator.
Yes, but it is not required by the regulations.
If it is required by the manufacturer for no valid reason then it is wrongly required .
OK. Is that not a safety or emergency switch?
Now you are being silly.
This is like notification.
Some people look for excuses to make notifiable work not notifiable and some look for ways to make non-notifiable work notifiable but the regulation will tell you if it is or not.
Some people look for excuses to make notifiable work not notifiable and some look for ways to make non-notifiable work notifiable but the regulation will tell you if it is or not.
OK yes I am highlighting some of the situations which do seem to be bizarre and I've deliberately added some which would not generally be considered.
I haven't looked at this subject for a number of years but I hope I recall correctly from 16th that motors do require local isolation. In the 'control' environment such details will be scrutinised with a fine tooth comb and ANY rotating device within the controlled system will soon be snagged if it doesn't have a local means of isolation. I've even had a papst fan ventilating the control panel snagged as the only means of individually isolating it was an MCB within the panel and even that was not double pole. When the consultant is breathing the reg at you there is no arguement.
So yes technically the fan within the oven does require a local isolator and it seems a bit silly [and somewhat difficult without rebuilding the oven electrics] to not include the whole appliance.
Silly or not I'll stand by that interpretation.
Regs also say to heed the MI's which my interpretation comes down to: regs require it if the manufacturer states it's required, whether regs specifically require it or not.
However if the MI's contradict regs [and I've had situations where they do] then it becomes somewhat difficult.
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