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Is the May 17th reopening a mistake?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by IT Minion, 12 May 2021.

  1. jeds

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    For what it's worth, I've thought for a long time that a very large proportion of GP stuff could be dealt with on line or over the phone. Makes perfect sense to me. Not that I spend a lot of time at the docs myself. My wife is manager at the local health centre so the subject comes up occasionally.
     
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  3. JP_

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    Probably. The first cases of Covid announced locally were from somebody who when to the doctors surgery. Although no name was given, they and the doctors surgery were given a huge amount of abuse from locals - obviously nobody considered that they might not have known they had covid until they had been diagnosed. This was very early on, around the time we should have locked down!
     
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    I've heard similar. GPs often see people that just want to talk to them. And there's always the people that go there for every headache, tummy ache etc. that their kid complains about.
     
  5. I predict that 100% of the people who dont die from C19 will die from something else.
     
  6. Are they the ones who dont believe in some bonkers conspiracy theory about it all being made up so that Bill Gates can get mind-control chips injected into everybody?
     
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  8. Do you honestly believe that people who think like that are going to take any notice of facts?
     
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    It always has been the case if you compare non-virus to virus deaths which ellal brought up wrongly.
     
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    I live in hope
     
  12. ellal

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    "The number of people waiting for hospital treatment in England has hit a record high amid the coronavirus crisis.
    An estimated 4.66 million people were waiting to begin treatment at the end of January, according to NHS England.
    It is the highest since records began in August 2007.
    The number waiting more than a year was 304,044 in January - the highest for any month since January 2008.
    In comparison, the number in January 2020 was just 1,643."

    I wonder how many of them will die from treatable illnesses?
     
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    Not as many as you probably think. A friend recently had a cancer scare (was cured a few years back) and he was seen and cleared immediately. Urgent appointments are not being delayed. Yes, long wait time for elective surgery, but I have not heard of problems with people not getting treatment that they needed, at least, nothing beyond the norm.
    So maybe no need to wonder about that.

    Of course, the sooner everybody is vaccinated, the sooner everything will go back to normal.
     
  14. jeds

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    There are periods in the recent past when that has been true. Between 1st December 2014 and end of March 2015 40,000 people are recorded as dying from flu. That's 10,000 per month. Not a peep from the outraged press.
     
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  15. ellal

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    So the figures are wrong?

    And how many waiting for 'elective surgery' will then develop more serious conditions?

    From Cancer Research UK

    "Cervical, breast and bowel cancer screening programmes are going ahead in the UK. But because of COVID-19, there are delays to some invitations and follow-up appointments.
    The NHS has had to make difficult decisions. Screening was delayed last year to protect people from COVID-19. NHS staff who run screening programmes were also needed to support critical services.
    Screening programmes have resumed. But there are now a lot of people waiting for screening tests and appointments. The NHS will try to reach everyone as soon as possible."

    Do you really think it will be 'back to normal', or more likely a 'new normal'?

    And what do you believe would that 'new normal' be?
     
  16. IT Minion

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    Interestingly enough, the theory that everyone dies is not proven and cannot be proven within our lifetimes.
     
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    Which is false. Go back and look at the press reports from around that time, there was a lot of press about it and how bad it was.
     
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