Its called freedom of speech and expression thank you, whats good tor the goose is good for the gander.
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Gant shows his inherent racism by demonising all asylum seekers.
That's not what I asked.
Lost its use of closing down debate long ago now answer the question.
Irrespective of whether Israel did the attacks that you accuse them of, Hamas do not have the right to target civilians for slaughter, torture, beheading, mutilation and kidnapping in the way that they did.
No one has that right.
An armed struggled doesn't involve the deliberate and indescriminate targeting of civilians in the way that Hamas did on 7th October. There was no attempt to target the Israeli military, Police or politicians. This was anti semitic terrorism, pure and simple. You demean yourself with your refusal to condemm this attack and your support for Hamas.You're conveniently ignoring the imprisoning of about 7,000 Palestinians without trial, the killing of about 5,500 Palestinians and the forced evictions of about 750,000 Palestinians from their homes, all before the 7 October attack.
Data on casualties | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - Occupied Palestinian Territory
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Why Gazans Fear Permanent Displacement in Egypt
For Palestinians, the specter of being forced from their homeland—with no assurance of when they can return—is a perennial fear.time.com
This is Israel's conduct towards the Palestinians in the occupied territories.
It's hardly surprising that Hamas is in an armed struggle against it's military occupiers.
Orthodox Christians still remain in Jerusalem. The Armenian quarter is the oldest enclave - and they support an independent Palestine.
Ask the Patriarch what he thinks.
What question?
No-one has suggested that they do. I've said it's not surprising, it should have been expected, even it may have been expected but was allowed to happen in order for the Zionists to start a war, and decimate the Palestinian population, even driving the Palestinians out of Gaza.
But, no-one has the right to target innocent civilians. That is simply a baseless accusation on your part.
However some of the accusations against Hamas, must be viewed with a little suspicion.
If you want an excuse to start a war, then of course you're going to make the utmost capital out of the event.
The Israeli military were targetted. I believe about 13 IDF soldiers were killed, but they're rarely mentioned. They were totally unprepared for the attack. The border, at that point, was not monitored (apparently), which is surprising for such a situation, especially in light of the intense monitoring of the border in other places.
As the UN said, the attack did not occur in a vacuum. Years of pent-up frustration with the Israeli actions against Palestinian civilians will understandably ignite desires for revenge.
But no-one has suggested that the revenge is excusable, from either side, understandable, yes, excusable, no.
And let's not forget that Hamas was born out of the armed struggle against Israeli cruel conduct toward Palestinians for decades.
They didn't occur in a vacuum. They were elected by the people of Gaza out of dissillusion of Fatah inactivity and lack of progress. (and Israeli promotion as an alternative to Fatah.)
Oh so you was only interested in the part of the post of where you thought you could accuse me of being racist.
Dismissing the part where I asked what do you think will be the outcome of the march in support of the Palastinians on the 11th of this month.
Oh that one?
As you didn't put a question mark at the end of your 'question', I thought it was rhetorical and an answer was not required, nor expected.
But in response to your'question', what makes you think I know what will be the outcome of this march? I hadn't given it any thought. I was not aware of it. I have no intention of speculating what will be the outcome of some events in the near future.
As you obviously have given it some thought, what do you think will be the outcome?
The Israeli bombardment of Gaza has now killed as many civilians in 4 weeks that Russia killed in over a year and a half.
The killing of innocent civilians is so serious that:
The killing of innocent civilians is so serious that:
It's in London, quite a big one by all accounts and is more of interest than discussing what's going on in Palestine which can't be affected by what's said on here. The consequences could be quite devastating if it gets out of control.
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How about the stated aim of Hamas to eradicate Jews? And you wonder why Israel do what they do?
Give your head a shake.
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It's called appeasing racism and terrorism.
According to your Israeli propaganda.
What about the stated aims of Zionist to control the whole of the Levant?
And let us remember that the Israeli government is dominated by Zionists.
Give your own head a shake.
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