Israeli army kills 28, offers to investigate one of them

[vinty]

The Syrian civil war has been goiing on for years during that time there have been periods were the regime was in danger of collapse , although they possessed chemical weapons they never used them , yet today when the regime has all but won the war they start using chemical weapons even though they know that using them costs them more than they gain and invites American retaliation.
The history of the middle east is littered with false flag attacks
Look up the definition of Cui Bono.

 

[SirGalahad]

Someone would like to defend this?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian

I'm saddened there is just so much hate on both sides. This is from a trained soldier.

 

[noseall]

more difficult than finding a tradesman who won't rip you off and destroy your property in the process.

Different sort of gas. Those numpty pipe benders work with a gas that once it has exploded and destroyed your house, no longer poses a threat like sarin.

 

[transam]

Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran during there war, many (?) Iranians victims were treated in the UK by the NHS

He also used chemicals against the Kurds .

Dare say the wests response will be some cruise missile , if they can find a suitable military target with no Russians present ???

leave syria well alone imo, it will end eventually ??

 

[vinty]

The Syrian civil was all but over ,the Russians were withdrawing their forces so why would Assad be so stupid to use chemical weapons and risk American intervention, an occasional gas attack has no tactical or strategic benefits for the regime, at the height of the civil war he never used these weapons.
there are documented cases of the rebels using chemical weapons this incident has all the hallmarks of a fit up designed to justify intervention by the usual suspects USA,UK and France, all these countries have a track record of using false pretexts to attack middle eastern countries.
If Assad is behind this alleged attack then he deserves to be bombed and not just for using gas but for being a complete twonk to think he could get away with it without anyone noticing.

 

[Notch7]

Listening to a defence expert last night, he said the US only has 2 options, do nothing or a prolonged very targeted air attack to stop Assad from having the ability for chemical war.

Neither option is very suitable.

Doing nothing allows the world to consider the West does nothing following a chemical weapons attack.

The war was nearly over, so a US attack now will weaken Assad and extend the war increasing casualities.

There seem to be no real options for Syria. There isn't even a least worst option available it seems.

 

[SirGalahad]

Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran during there war, many (?) Iranians victims were treated in the UK by the NHS

He also used chemicals against the Kurds .

Dare say the wests response will be some cruise missile , if they can find a suitable military target with no Russians present ???

leave syria well alone imo, it will end eventually ??

You got a link where Iranian victims were treated in the UK. You know how many?

Saddam was our tyrant until we didnt need him anymore.

 

[SirGalahad]

Doing nothing allows the world to consider the West does nothing following a chemical weapons attack.

The west has done nothing before after a chemical attack. Geo Politics is a strange beast with strange bedfellows.

 

[ellal]

Geo Politics is a strange beast with strange bedfellows.

To understand that, firstly you have to ask the pertinent questions.

Namely who exactly profits from conflict, and what role do they play in ensuring it is a continual part of human behaviour!

 

[vinty]

You got a link where Iranian victims were treated in the UK. You know how many?

Saddam was our tyrant until we didnt need him anymore.

Saddam signed his own death warrant when he threatened Israel with his Supergun, he could depend on the Americans to bail him out when they were using him as a proxy to take out Iran, when he used poison gas against the Iranians the USA and UK blocked any UN security counsel resolutions against him they even tried to blame the Iranians for gassing their own people.
However when Saddam lost the Iran/Iraq war they dumped him.

 

[vinty]

To understand that, firstly you have to ask the pertinent questions.

Namely who exactly profits from conflict, and what role do they play in ensuring it is a continual part of human behaviour!

The problem is there is no penalty for failure

To understand that, firstly you have to ask the pertinent questions.

Namely who exactly profits from conflict, and what role do they play in ensuring it is a continual part of human behaviour!

Cui Bono.

 

[ellal]

The problem is there is no penalty for failure

There is no 'failure' as such.

Because ensuring you sell your 'wares' as far and wide as possible (whilst regularly switching 'loyalties') means you can afford to not worry who 'wins' at any particular point in time

 

[transam]

You got a link where Iranian victims were treated in the UK. You know how many?

Saddam was our tyrant until we didnt need him anymore.

no but I recall the report on TV , dunno how many

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

no but I recall the report on TV , dunno how many

A**e end is inventing stuff again.
He must have amnesia:

7 January 1984 Four bottles of silver nitrate are discovered washed up on a beach near Cherbourg in France. Iran subsequently claims they were part of a shipment of materials on an Iraqi ship, Ibn Khaldun, travelling from Liverpool in Britain to Kuwait and claims this discovery has ‘proved the secret sales of chemical weapons to Baghdad’ by the British Government. Four days later, Prime Minister Mir Hussein Moussavi of Iran warns that ‘hostile policies’ of Britain’s supply of chemical weapons to Iraq would not go unanswered.
...
Iraq then launches 10 unsuccessful counteroffensives before dropping canisters of toxic gas on the islands, according to an Iranian revolutionary guard who is being treated in a Belgian hospital for chemical poisoning

http://www.cbw-events.org.uk/EXIQ84Q1.PDF

So in answer to kankerot's question:

... Iranians victims were treated in the UK by the NHS

You got a link where Iranian victims were treated in the UK. You know how many?

A**e end's response should have been
"One Iranian victim was treated in Belgium. Five Iranian soldiers in Sweden. Eleven other casualties arrive in Austria and Switzerland."

Maybe a**e end was distracted by the name of the source of the information:
"Claude van England (from Brussels), ‘Iraq’s Strategies Get a Desperate Edge’, Christian Science Monitor,"

Evidently, if a**e end had just said, "some were treated in UK", no-one would have been bothered with his inventive nonsense.
Indeed, considering the accusation at the time by Iran, that UK were providing the apparatus to Iraq to manufacture chemical weapons, it would have been a humanitarian consideration. But as UK did not have diplomatic relations with Iran during the Iraq - Iran war, that was unlikely to happen.
But when a**e end adds, "by the NHS", it is intentional, contrived, bigoted assertion intended to be divisive essentially between Iran and UK, but more probably targeted at immigrants in general, as usual.
Perhaps a**e end's other comments gives us a true reflection of his feelings towards Iranians:

Whilst all the may hem is going on stick a bomb on Iran as well

Maybe his anti-Palestinian and pro-Israeli comments reflect his bigotry also.

 

[transam]

If u say so way r bee

(Zanussi )