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Yep as i thought, unable to challenge my first hand experiences because you have no relevant reply, let alone actually concur it's an issue, far 'braver' to ignore i said them.
No idea... take a life lesson, real strength in debate isn’t pretending you’re infallible, noone is, it’s having the confidence to acknowledge when the other person makes a valid point. Recognising truth, even when it comes from your opponent, isn’t weakness; it’s intelligence and credibility in action.


Yet you dismiss my lived experience, and my pointing out that the hill on which you're choosing to die is bereft of fact.


It works both ways.
 
You've heard wrong: it is an injection for starters
My apologies, my post was incorrect, the current ones mountjaro and wegovy are indeed injections.


Also and in my experience, it is commonly being taken by people who are not willing to put in any graft / exercise any self-control, and they're paying for it via private prescriptions / online / "The woman who does my wife's botox gets them for me"
yes that’s a fair point, I’m absolutely sure that does happen.

the thing I was trying to get across is that there are people who can’t stay on diets and exercise, they try and fail. For those people these medicines are a way for them to break the cycle.


Ive listened to a few phone ins on this topic this year and the people calling in mostly say it’s changed their lives. I’ve no experience of anybody I know taking it.
 
Ive listened to a few phone ins on this topic this year and the people calling in mostly say it’s changed their lives.

Bear in mind, "people who call 'phone ins" are a certain subset of the population.

The angry, and the evangelical mainly.

i.e. not a group that would stand up to scientific rigour (y)
 
You believe nebulous rubbish that doesn't stand up to even the mildest scrutiny.

You posted it, then cried when this was pointed out to you.

If it was factually correct, ask yourself why Yusuf didn't quote those facts.
Festive is extremely opinionated….one can’t help but smile at the way he accuses others of that he is himself…..often within the same sentence.
 
the thing I was trying to get across is that there are people who can’t stay on diets and exercise, they try and fail. For those people these medicines are a way for them to break the cycle.


For some, they may indeed "break the cycle".

Call me cynical though, but a few months' worth of magic injections breaking a lifetime of habits?
I'm not buying that.
 
I know a few people on it and been on them. they are not the same as diets where they yo yo between weights then pile it back on. One lad at work looks a completely different person, putting it bluntly he was grossly overweight, he actually looks great now. A girl in our office was overweight and now looks like the type of girl that I would date. She has been off the injections over 3 months and has a healthy lifestyle. I think it really is a wonder drug, it stops those on it from wanting to snack out with unhealthy foods. I personaly yo yo gaining a gram or so either way so I wouldnt need this expensive fix, but from what I have seen, it is worth every penny and actually changes people in a few months.
 
I know a few people on it and been on them. they are not the same as diets where they yo yo between weights then pile it back on. One lad at work looks a completely different person, putting it bluntly he was grossly overweight, he actually looks great now. A girl in our office was overweight and now looks like the type of girl that I would date. She has been off the injections over 3 months and has a healthy lifestyle. I think it really is a wonder drug, it stops those on it from wanting to snack out with unhealthy foods. I personaly yo yo gaining a gram or so either way so I wouldnt need this expensive fix, but from what I have seen, it is worth every penny and actually changes people in a few months.

The irony is that you're arguing with people who claim they want women to have a choice on what they do with their bodies (unless it involves weight loss?)
 
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