Looking for some advice on framing a wall-hung toilet

[Notadecor8ter]

I'm doing my bathroom at the moment and I love the look of a floating hidden bog but can't see how maintenance of them will be of ease over its life span.

I'm not even sure a hidden cistern with a boarded setup is any better?

My water is very hard and I could see it easily becoming a mess in a few years.

 

[mrrusty]

I prefer back-to-the-wall toilets as you don't have to worry about the strength of the framing. As to access, some high quality Geberit hidden cisterns are designed to be accessed through the flush plate, but what I do is to split the panel behind the toilet so the low bit that the toilet fixes against is fixed, and the panel above is attached with slot-in connectors/magnets. If just removing the front panel is enough then AOK, or you can configure the worktop above to be removeable as well. Depends on the situation.

With a bit of care, hidden cisterns are just as serviceable as exposed ones.

 

[cdbe]

It's all fully sealed and everything is done through the front flush panel - apart from the idiocy of the cold water inlet and isolation valve on one of mine being outside the cistern - so impossible to access once tiled in. I pulled the whole lot inside the cistern.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

It seems like a whole load of hassle for little benefit to me. Perhaps if you can sink it into the original wall then there's a reason to do it. But not if you're making the room smaller just to pretend it's not there.

Are people ashamed of owning a toilet?!

I could completely replace mine without leaving a mark on any of the floor tiles or flooring. The toilet was fitted last, there are perfect grouted tiles all behind and under it. Just a couple of holes in the wall and another two in the floor. Plus a ring of silicone around the base. I could swap it for a completely different make and model without leaving a visible scar.

 

[johnny2007]

It seems like a whole load of hassle for little benefit to me. Perhaps if you can sink it into the original wall then there's a reason to do it. But not if you're making the room smaller just to pretend it's not there.

Are people ashamed of owning a toilet?!

I could completely replace mine without leaving a mark on any of the floor tiles or flooring. The toilet was fitted last, there are perfect grouted tiles all behind and under it. Just a couple of holes in the wall and another two in the floor. Plus a ring of silicone around the base. I could swap it for a completely different make and model without leaving a visible scar.

That's the common sense approach when fitting a toilet...
Then there are the designer bogs, for when you value your shyt more than your money...

 

[Paulintheprocess]

For a half-height frame like that you basically need something solid to tie the top into, otherwise it will wobble no matter how well you fix the bottom.

IIRC, most people fix a horizontal timber to the existing wall just under the window and run the studs up into that. As long as the wall behind is sound, you can get a decent fixing with frame fixings or long concrete screws. Doesn’t need to be over-engineered, just tight and in several places.

I’d use 3x2 or 4x2 for the studs and top plate. The side-to-side movement is usually dealt with by sheathing the face (ply or OSB) before you board it. Once the toilet frame is bolted in and everything’s skinned, it stiffens up a lot.

Nothing unusual about doing it that way, just make sure the frame is level and the fixings into the wall are good.